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President Obama tries to save Great Britain from itself

5 June 2014

Maybe it’s a special relationship after all. President Obama has given David Cameron and the Better Together campaign a rhetorical boost this afternoon. At a press conference held at the G7 in Brussels, the president said:

With respect to the future of the United Kingdom, obviously ultimately this is up to the people of Great Britain.

‘In the case of Scotland, there is a referendum process in place and it’s up to the people of Scotland.

‘But I would to say the United Kingdom has been an extraordinary partner to us. From the outside at least, it looks like things have worked pretty well.

‘We obviously have a deep interest in making sure one of the closest allies we will ever remains a strong, robust, united and effective partner.’

The statement will infuriate Scottish nationalists; but, nonetheless, its tactical significance is enormous. It allows the Better Together campaign to make a political argument couched in emotional terms. The day before the 70th anniversary of D-Day, the US President declared that the United Kingdom is greater – in every sense of the term – than the sum of its parts. The Unionists must grab this opportunity because it won’t be repeated before September.


Obama also endorsed David Cameron’s position on the European Union, and urged British voters to support the prime minister:

‘In light of the events that we are going to be commemorating tomorrow, it’s important to recall that it was the steadfastness of Great Britain that in part allows us to be here in Brussels in the seat of a unified and extraordinarily prosperous Europe.

‘It’s hard for me to image that project going well in the absence of Great Britain, and it’s hard for me to imagine it would be advantageous for Great Britain to be excluded from political decisions that have an enormous impact on its economic and political life. I’m sure the people of Britain will make the right decision.’

Doubtless, this arch contribution will irritate those British people who resent being lectured by Americans, especially American politicians. Convinced Euroscpetics are, of course, beyond Mr Cameron’s reach; but others may be swayed by Obama’s emotion and reasoning. After all, the President of the United States is still a big deal, even in this age of anti-politics and American decline. And for that reason the President’s view that ‘It’s hard for me to image that project going well in the absence of Great Britain’ should prick the ears of other European governments.

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  • Angus_MacDougall

    Scotland’s own Chavez-Rodriquez double act won’t be pleased, I hear they’re blaming the :

    ( 1 ) UK Government (conspiracy).

    ( 2 ) The Media (biased).

    Nothing new there.

  • Jabez Foodbotham

    I think our government initially supported the separatists over there, and then lost its nerve and abandoned them.

  • timepass

    While speaking about the ‘partnership’ with UK, wonder what he meant by saying that “From the outside at least, it looks like things have worked pretty well..”?

    • allymax bruce

      The ‘British’ have the most sophisticated spy network on the planet; people on the ground, everywhere; and ‘Quantum Insert’.

  • Simon Fay

    I wonder how many boots on the ground Obummer’s administration has bivouacking in the Highlands ready to do a reverse Kosovo should Scotland decide to secede?

  • Jackthesmilingblack

    I caught this on BBC World News last night, Japan time.
    Dave sounded like a real Muppet, That journalist questioner would make a better prime minister.
    Jack, Japan Alps

    • allymax bruce

      Jack, that ‘muppet journalist’ was the BBC, that asked president Obama the question about Scotland; the Financial Times reckons he was ‘prompted’ by Cameron. This means the MSM & Westminster, are, at every turn, colluding any and every opportunity to denounce the People of Scotland’s right to decide for ourself.

      • Jackthesmilingblack

        You appear to have willfully misunderstood. Dangerous Dave Cameron was the Muppet.

  • victor67

    There is no doubt Pax Americana would be weakened by Scottish Independence but if your living in a council house in Easterhouse I doubt it will be the deciding factor.
    Indeed the loss of Uncle Sam’s expensive nuclear toys and no more Scots squaddies dying to boost the US military industrial complex is quite an attractive proposition. Its only the political elite who worry about the loss of International clout by a divided UK.

  • Curnonsky

    Given Obama’s track record of Syrian red lines and Crimean ultimatums, this can only mean the Scotland will secede and Britain will cut the EU tether. He has contracted a case of Gordon Brown’s Syndrome, whereby everything he touches goes wrong.

    • Conway

      He has contracted a case of Gordon Brown’s Syndrome, whereby everything he touches goes wrong.” I thought that was Cameronitis.

  • Airey Belvoir

    A succinct reply by Wee Eck: “Yes, we can.”

  • Q46

    “After all, the President of the United States is still a big deal…”

    Er, not this President of the United States.

    • allymax bruce

      President Obama still has the opportunity to redeem himslef; I said his comment on Scotland’s Independence vote, ‘was unfortunate'; and I forgive him. I also said it was well-known (FT), that snake-boy Cameron ‘prompted’ President Obama for this favour, that he would endorse this horrible oppressive unequal union; all-of-which, which means, President Obama now owes Scotland’s First Minister Alex’ Salmond a favour!
      Come on president Obama, redeem yourself.

  • MichtyMe

    Hmmm, the 4th July a big mistake eh?

  • DaveTheRave

    So the Union is so precious we ask a mega VIP to help out, huh? And what price must England pay to keep Scotland within the union? Anything it takes, because we are mere cash cows and nothing more. If there is anything around which is the ‘English Claim of Right’, I’d sign it right now. Note, there was no mention of England at all.

    • hacimo

      Cry Havoc, and assemble the Barons!

  • The Masked Marvel

    Why would anyone on the fence be swayed at all by what Obama said? Anyone who still trusts him at this point will already be a hopeless lost cause and will already be pro EU. No need to be swayed by his reasoning. Alternatively, a hearty endorsement by the disastrous Obama might just be the thing that turns some people against it.

    Or will this be seen as just another opportunity to call those with an opposing view racist?

  • cromwell

    No surprise he is a one world government supporter independent nation states are an anathema to him. Yankee go home.

  • 2trueblue

    The way the US is phrasing their words at present you would think that the UK played a minor part in World War 2. The BBC and Sky continually show footage of American not British troops landing, ignoring the fact that there were more British and Canadian troops than US, and if you include the Royal Navy, twice as many.

    • cromwell

      Yes the 1939/45 war for us the 1942/45 war for the yanks who would not of been in ww2 yet if the Japs had not bombed Pearl Harbour.

  • Blindsideflanker

    If Obama thinks Brussels is such an important organisation, let them join it , and disenfranchise their people, instead of expecting us to do it on their behalf.

    • glurk

      Anyone who can infuriate the Scots Nats has my vote. I need a bit of entertainment and Obama signing the States up to the EU and handing over the Dollar in return for the Euro could just do the trick.

  • Realpolitik/ fruitcake/ racist

    ” it’s hard for me to imagine it would be advantageous for Great
    Britain to be excluded from political decisions that have an enormous
    impact on its economic and political life”

    No need to imagine it! Get over to Brussels, you can see it for yourself!

    • 2trueblue

      Spot on, which is why we need to leave, and we do not need lectures from the USA.

  • BarkingAtTreehuggers

    It would be interesting to hear what Baracco Barner thinks.

    n.b. I note the Little England brigade is out in force today.

    • Blindsideflanker

      What do you mean by that racist comment?

      • DaveTheRave

        Personally, I wear my ‘Little Englander’ badge with pride, it says: ‘BIG Englander’. Of course, wearing it means I pay no attention to the rest of Europe or the world and live in a Victorian daydream where half the world is pink… The things you have to put up with simply defending this country, eh?

      • BarkingAtTreehuggers

        Baracco Barner is no racist and Little Englanders are not yet a race, unless you subscribe to fascist race ideology. Hope this helps.

    • Q46

      Over there next to the Little Scotlander brigade?

    • Inverted Meniscus

      I see your other sock puppet is spouting unintelligible gibberish on this subject lad.

  • Realpolitik/ fruitcake/ racist

    Why on earth would Cameron want for Scotland to remain in the UK?

    • you_kid

      He doesn’t. He sold it to the ECB as I confirmed many times.
      This fact worries Obummer as it will further unify Europe.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …wait, we have you and the barking sockpuppet in here, can you get your goat sockpuppet in here too, lad?

        • Inverted Meniscus

          Hold up we don’t want a gibberish spouting socialist nutter convention here.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            Well yes, that could be problematic. Can sockpuppets be deported?

            • Inverted Meniscus

              Hopefully to North Korea.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        Your gibberish spouting menagerie of socialist nutter sock puppets is out in force tonight lad. Did the Spectator offer you a special socialist nutter discount?

  • UniteAgainstSocialism

    Vote UKIP

    • telemachus

      Vote Democrat
      Obama makes good sense

      • UniteAgainstSocialism

        strange isnt it after the democrat partys’ support for slavery, its very strong connections with the KKK, black people actually vote for it. no wonder democrats are like Labour here importing voters from backwards 3rd world countries to vote for them

    • you_kid


  • Rhoda Klapp8

    And his influence is what? His record of being right is what? The chances of his being well-informed or advised on this is?

  • @PhilKean1

    Patronising, interfering TWIT !

    The right decision? I choked on my tea when he spewed that one out.

    I mean, can you imagine a British Prime Minister poking his big fat nose into the private political affairs of the American people and asking them to vote to live under EU dictatorship?

    He also said – “we never leave an American behind who wears the uniform”.

    Hey, Barack, are you sure he was wearing it when he was captured?

    • Kitty MLB

      Well said Phil. The absolute cheek, big ole America sticking
      their nose in another countries business as usual
      Maybe the British Bulldog should give the American
      mule a little snap!
      How would they like to be controlled and manipulated
      by say, Mexico.

      • hacimo

        He is just saying what Cameron told him to say. This is not an interest of Obama. He could care less what England, Wales or Scotland do with each other. It is just part of an orchestrated campaign to enforce the status-quo, demoralize and isolate the Eurosceptic camp. If the public falls for this, the independence of the UK or any other EU member state is finished. The ideas of nationality, independence, and sovereignty are finished as far as the traditional nation state is concerned.

  • LadyDingDong

    I’ll be damned. Much as I want the Scots ito leave and for us to exit the EU, these were fine words from a man I dislike. Damn,

  • Darnell Jackson

    Doubt it will change a single vote

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