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America’s Left is just as ‘eccentric’ as its Right

9 May 2014

Rory Sutherland writes in this week’s magazine that the Mozilla/Brendan Eich affair has finally put him off his dream of moving to the United States, quoting Andrew Sullivan that ‘The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society.’

The issue of gay marriage has changed politics in the English-speaking world in a way that perhaps people didn’t expect – breaking the liberal-Left’s final link with the ideal of John Locke that permitting something did not mean approving of it. This notion has been coming under pressure for some years, especially with discrimination laws, but SSM has snapped it. (Brendan O’Neill has written about this extensively for Spiked and Telegraph blogs.)

But this has been more pronounced in the United States, a country where Locke’s ideas were far more influential and were indeed the inspiration for the country’s Declaration of Independence.

It’s well known in Britain that elements of the American Right are pretty wacky, including large numbers who don’t believe in evolution and a substantial minority who hold onto the bizarre conspiracy theory that Barack Obama’s pregnant mother got onto a jet to have her son in Kenya. And we’ve all seen Alex Jones with his own interesting version of reality, battling those Giant Paedophile Armies.

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Yet it’s very little observed just how extreme and wacky America’s Left is.

At the peak of the Obama changeling story polls suggested that up to half of Republican voters believed this bizarre story, something the British media had a good chortle at, yet exactly the same percentage of Democrats believed that the US government was responsible for 9/11.

While crimes committed by a small number of anti-abortion activists get enshrined in European memory banks, the violence and intimidation often committed against pro-life or anti-same-sex marriage campaigners is simply ignored. (The Right even gets blamed for stuff it’s not responsible for – the anniversary of JFK’s assassination last year inspired a number of articles about how the ‘hate’ of the Southern states was to blame, while ignoring the fact that he was actually killed by a Communist.)

Brits like a good laugh at small town America with its narrow-minded attitudes, yet America’s Democrat enclaves are equally secluded; Jonathan Haidt famously found just three Republicans among 1,000 members of a university audience, concluding that the atmosphere had become so intimidating that others were scared of coming forward. Any environment in which one political bent dominates without opposition will necessarily become more extreme, and the huge disparities on America’s campuses between open Democrats and Republicans (reflected in campaign donations) has led to an atmosphere of political intolerance, as Steven Pinker and others have observed.

America’s academia, in particular its social science and humanities departments, is of course the birthplace of the ideology we now call political correctness, that is the idea that dissenting views should be forced out of public discourse and the language delegitimised by being branded as hate.

So one of the characteristics of the American Left is the rapidly evolving nature of its vocabulary, and the invention of new terms of abuse and thought-crime, all designed to change the way we think. Even established, august institutions are also quick to label any opponents, however respected, as extremists or haters. However this mind-set is not just enforced from above but helped by a keen volunteer auxiliary thought police eager to weed out badthinkers and heretics; there are also de facto show trials and re-education classes.

America’s identity politics has always been pretty off the wall, but with micro-aggressions and privilege-checking it’s reached a new level of insanity – and yet because socialism in America has traditionally been weak we ignore the country’s very powerful, and by British standards extreme, radical Left.

America is a very divided country, with growing disparities in wealth and politics, but it is clearly one troubled by extremes on both sides. It’s just that one side is too far gone to realise.

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  • cartimandua

    There isn’t any “violence” against pro lifers but honestly if someone thumps the creeps “talking names” when women try to attend medical care I am frankly thrilled to bits.
    I think I would march up to some of them and scream “she has cancer you evil ar**”.

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    The American left is so small it’s all irrelevant.

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  • formonitoring

    Mostly nonsense. What’s the source on the suggestion that 50% of Democrats believe the US govt had something to do with 9/11? A fabricated or absurdly exaggerated statistic. Ditto with alleged lethal attacks on anti-abortion activists. Name some of them. There haven’t been any. Yet more than a dozen doctors and nurses have been killed or maimed over the past decade.

    The Left may indulge in some petty campaigns, but the US Right has simply abandoned the most basic rationality. That’s why it is on track to lose in 2016, and for an indefinite time after.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Strange. The Left in the US is losing seats in the US House and Senate again this year, and they’ve lost many state legislatures and governors mansions as well recently. I’m not seeing this “indefinite” period of success you’re claiming for them. Apparently, the electorate doesn’t agree with you re your “basic rationality” claims.

      And while you’re asking for “names”, perhaps you can name a few of the dozen doctors and nurses killed over the past decade. .

      • formonitoring

        From wikipedia:


        March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992.Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn’s murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

        July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before in 1984 and was also bombed subsequently in 2012.

        December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.

        January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.

        October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian’s murder after being apprehended in France in 2001.

        May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at a church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]

        Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping[edit]

        According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

        August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).

        July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.

        December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.

        October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]

        January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

        Arson, bombing, and property crime[edit]

        According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid (“stink bombs”).[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:

        December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians’ offices in Pensacola, Florida, were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings “a gift to Jesus on his birthday.”[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.

        March 29, 1993: Blue Mountain Clinic in Missoula, Montana; at around 1 a.m., an arsonist snuck onto the premises and firebombed the clinic. The perpetrator, a Washington man, was ultimately caught, convicted and imprisoned. The facility was a near-total loss, but all of the patients’ records, though damaged, survived the fire in metal file cabinets.[21][22][23]

        May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[24]

        October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[25]

        May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire, resulted in several thousand dollars’ worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[26][27][28] This was the second arson at the clinic.[29]

        September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[30]

        June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington, destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[25][31]

        July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida, was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[25]

        December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a “memorial lamp” for an abortion she had had there.[32]

        September 11, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women’s Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[33] Time magazine listed the incident in a “Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots” list.[34]

        April 25, 2007: A package left at a women’s health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[35]

        May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[36]

        December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd’s clinic in Albuquerque. Baca’s girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[37][38]

        January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[39] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[40]

        January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida, with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[41]

        April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic’s examination rooms. No injuries were reported.

        April 11, 2013 A Planned Parenthood clinic in Bloomington, Indiana, was vandalized with an axe.[42]

        • the viceroy’s gin

          So basically, you claimed a dozen murdered doctors in the last decade, but you’ve only provided the name of one? As I suspected, your claim was false.

          And lad, the greatest political violence in the US is performed historically by lab unions. They kill in volume, as we know, and they are of the Left. In recent decades, a big kill group are the enviromentalist whackos. The Unabomber was the most famous, but there are many others. And all these whackos are of the Left as we know.

          • formonitoring

            sorry if that list of murdered and maimed medical workers isnt enough for you. still waiting for the list of anti-abortion activists killed.

            and a list of people that labour unions have killed.

            and anyone on the left who killed 100+ people as the right-wing militia aficianado tim mcveigh killed at oklahoma city.

            • the viceroy’s gin

              The murdered due to abortionists are far too numerous to count, lad. They’re in their millions.

              You can do your own research as to the Left’s murders, lad. They far outnumber your count of 1 (one), I assure you.

              Actually, McVeigh was more leftist. Most murderers are, as we know statistically.

              • cartimandua

                There is no such thing as a “preborn child” except in the self serving delusional imaginations of obsessed anti abortion creeps.
                Its all about needing to control, harm, and kill women because that is what an anti abortion ethos does.
                It ruins the healthcare offered to every fertile woman. It makes it less safe.
                Ireland has just performed its first legal abortion. After Savita they thought they could no longer get away with covering up maternal deaths caused by under treatment.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  You know, it’s obsessives who often act out the violence being discussed above.

                  Obsessives troll and plaster up spam incessantly and such.

                • cartimandua

                  I don’t “spam” I present reasoned argument backed up by actual facts and evidence.
                  You are just spitting your dummy because you have no facts or evidence and no argument worth any debate.
                  The pro life position has nothing at all even on their own terms illegal or restricted abortion leads to more of them.
                  Even if you are “right” for instance that a zygote is of equal importance to a fully sentient woman you still have no point because illegal abortion leads to more abortions.
                  Get men to step up with condoms and then the snip.
                  49% of pregnancies in the USA in the last few years were unintended.
                  That’s because USA healthcare is rotten for women and because American men like to swan about with guns but actually are too cowardly to get a simple outpatient procedure.
                  Only 9% of men ever do although the USA is 50th in the world for maternal outcomes.
                  American men should be very ashamed as should of course Catholics.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  We just have to hope that these obsessives don’t snap, and do what so many others of them have done over the years.

                  The spam we can just skip over, of course .

                • cartimandua

                  Obsessive anti abortionists like other kinds of terrorists have snapped and they have killed.
                  They have exactly the same mental make up as Islamist terrorists ready to harm people for an imagined perfect other they do not know at all.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  But once in a while, you come across an obsessive that you just know is subject to go off and do harm.

                • cartimandua

                  There haven’t been any cases of pro choicers harming antis and this is surprising as antis are often seen blocking women trying to access healthcare.
                  If people are escorting a woman having to terminate a much wanted pregnancy because the foetus has a lethal anomaly
                  the sanctimonious shi** blocking their path would be very hard to stomach as it would if amyone was escorting a woman having or potentially having cancer treatment.
                  I still no of no instances where “pro choicers” have lost their temper however ignorant and cruel the prolifers are being.
                  In this country we had “pro lifers” taking a grieving couple to court because the “prolifers” thought they were aborting for “cosmetic reasons”. They were not of course as the medical record showed in the courtroom
                  All the “pro lifers” had done is expose their vicious sadism and ignorance.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  And one of the marks of the obsessed is their ability to block reality, as in millions of slaughtered innocents.

                  Fortunately, spam can be ignored, and we can only hope they don’t act out any more on their obsessions.

                • cartimandua

                  What happens in the end if every pregnancy which could “go to term” was taken to term?
                  Lets just take the USA
                  Maternal mortality gets much much worse it is already a shameful 50th in the world for the biggest spend.
                  All adoption fostering and child care facilities would be filled in year one.
                  Economically the whole pace goes down the pan. The Welfare system would crash entirely and so would the health care system. The turnaway study shows what happens in terms of Welfare and poor health if women who need a termination don’t get one.
                  So your lot have no vision other than sinking the United States and turning into a ghastly dystopia where people starve on the streets and drug gangs hang body parts from bridges.
                  The drug wars of South and Latin America are the Catholic version of youth bulge conflict.
                  Globally the United States already uses half the worlds resources.
                  Increased population would suck up even more and there are powerful nations which would kick back.
                  Your “vision” is nothing short of apocalyptic .

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  The obsessives never quit. That’s why they’re worrisome. Obsession often spills over into violence.

                  Yes, all their spam can be ignored, but they do still have potential for violence.

                • cartimandua

                  “My side doesn’t”. Your side has endlessly. The sheer nastiness of stopping women getting to what may well be lifesaving healthcare (by hounding them at clinics) needs to be confronted by all peaceful means.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  Never. They never quit. They’re obsessive, and thus, dangerous to the rest of us, and to all innocent life.

            • cartimandua

              There aren’t any but their ickle wickle feelings may have been wounded by someone calling them a nasty name they richly deserve.

      • formonitoring

        The democrats gained an overall majority vote in the congressional election of 2012. the republicans gained a majority of seats through gerrymander.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          No, I don’t think you understand US politics very well, to be passing that lefty wheeze about gerrymander. Suggest you check with knowledgeable political observers, who know better.

          The Left is losing at the local, state and congressional levels, and will do so again this year. That has nothing to do with “gerrymander”.

      • Raw England

        Remember: America is on the precipice of becoming immigrant-majority (non-White). And all blacks and Hispanics etc vote Left.

        Said non-Whites themselves are far-Right for their own race, but they vote/support the Left because they know its the best/quickest way to destroy what remains of Western nations.

    • Curnonsky

      Aren’t you forgetting about the hundreds of thousands of nameless, voiceless infants exterminated every year by your precious abortionists?

      But then, if you can defend an ideology that excuses Stalin and Mao’s murdering ways perhaps your conscience is elastic enough already.

      • cartimandua

        They are not “infants” they are not “people” until they are born. Otherwise I could just yank your kidney right out if I needed it.
        If women do not own their own bodies then neither do you.
        You should be deeply ashamed of the USA’s heinous maternal outcomes stats. It is worse than 59 other countries.

        • Curnonsky

          What I am ashamed of is the acceptance of infanticide for the sake of convenience.

          • cartimandua

            Infanticide means the killing of post birth infants. Ireland has the worst stillbirth neonatal and perinatal death rate in the EU because they do not do TOPFA (termination for foetal anomaly). They also have the highest rate of ‘Anencephaly in the world.
            It is very sadistic to force dying infants to do their inevitable dying after birth when they might feel it with whatever parts of the brain they actually have.

            • Curnonsky

              No, infanticide means killing children full stop.

              What is it with the Left’s death obsession: abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide…no wonder mass murder comes so easily to them.

              • cartimandua

                I am so far right I think Ghengis Khan was a wimp. Being right wing or indeed Left wing doesn’t have to mean being “stupid”.
                Prolifers are stupid fundamentalists with the IQ of plants.
                If you want less unintended pregnancies (expensive whatever one does about it) get men to step up and empower women in every possible way.
                Then the USAs heinous maternal outcome stats ,49% unintended pregnancy stats might improve and you would have a smaller welfare bill.

  • Grey Wolf

    The establishment Right in America is now almost entirely dominated by neo-cons whose intellectual godfathers are Trotskyists (Irving Kristol, Podhoretz etc).

    The next gen neo-cons are liberals on socio-economic issues (easy on immigration, fine with marriage equality by and large, ok with new deal etc) but wish to use American power in the mid-east and against Russian interests. Aside from that they are liberal – progressives.

    There is the paleo-right (e.g. Buchanan) who have largely been edged out by neo-cons. And then Ron Paul libertarians who have had a revival of sorts lately under Rand Paul’s leadership.

    There is also the emerging traditionalist right which is a marginal force at the moment. These guys trace back to Indo-European roots and speak of European cultural, religious roots etc.

    Needless to mention the lefties and the neocons demonise the paleos, libertarians and the traditionalists as racists.

  • Daedalus

    The problem with the left is well. Their LEFT.

    Thats why we are RIGHT.


    • Grey Wolf

      Well, people confuse the neo-cons with ‘right’. They are not. Neo-cons are progressives but pose deceptively as part of the right.

  • the viceroy’s gin

    I had to quit paying attention after reading the title again, lad. It’s just off, as must be everything following it.

    The US is basically at least 4-5 countries, with a dozen states or so in each, and many cities, townships, villages and counties in each of those states. Yes, you media muppets often make statements as you’re doing, that describe all of that, and all those people, in all those regions, across all those time zones… via your simple polarities… but such facile analysis just makes you look foolish. You should travel through there sometime. It might help you avoid typing such inanities.

    • tjamesjones

      And what will help you avoid typing such inanities VG?

      • the viceroy’s gin

        Have you made your way through your previous history and geography lessons, lad? You mustn’t waste time whining here, if not.

        • tjamesjones

          Ah VG, good to see you haven’t lost your spirit.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …but sad to see that you haven’t found any sense.

            I’m still chuckling at you waxing pedant, lad.

            • tjamesjones

              But VG, darling, you got it wrong. You got yourself very excited about the Marsh Arabs, but the post wasn’t about the Marsh Arabs. You had that little bit of the thread all to yourself, arguing about the poor old Marsh Arabs.

              • the viceroy’s gin

                Yes, it was quite amusing, you lecturing blather, and then being stepped on with obvious correctives.

                Which is why you fled that argument, of course.

  • Curnonsky

    The basic difference between Left and Right in America today is that, while the Right is still a spectrum of opinion ranging from respectable, dowdy centrist to conspiracy-theory fringe, the Left has become a radical monoculture of warmed-over Marxism with strong fascist overtones.

    And unlike the Right, the Left occupies the dominant position in most American cultural and political institutions, thus ensuring that future generations are poisoned by the peculiar pathology it spreads.

  • Smithersjones2013

    America’s Left is just as ‘eccentric’ as its Right

    Priceless. This from a dimwit who is going to vote Libdem in the council elections just as their vote is collapsing to overturn the Labour dictatorship in Haringey.

    When it comes to eccentricity West might be better starting off by looking in the mirror…..

    PS And if West is referring to the left’s malevolence and bigotry perhaps he should just come out and say it rather than wrapping it in politically crass language!

  • Kaine

    So this Lockean compact wasn’t broken when the USA imprisoned anti-draft protesters in WW1, or by the Hays Code, or by HUAC?

    Also, nonsense false equivalency. Let me know when a Christian kid takes his own life after being bullied by the gay kids, or when a bunch of gay men tie a straight man to a fence and torture him to death citing panic about his sexuality as a defence.

    The tantrums of conservatives who are seeing, for the first time in their lives, the market work against them are spectacular. Hate is gonna cost you. Capitalism’s a bitch ain’t it?

    • Curnonsky

      Well, let’s see…the American president who ordered anti-draft protesters imprisoned was Woodrow Wilson, perhaps the most left-wing occupant of the White House until the current one. The Hays Code was imposed by the movie industry upon itself, not by the government. And the thing about the HUAC was – there actually were a great number of Soviet spies and agents of influence throughout the government, the press and the entertainment business.

      The story about the gay man (Matthew Shepard) tied to the fence has been thoroughly debunked: he actually was murdered by his sometime lover over a drug deal gone wrong; his story was subsequently transmogrified into another PC fable.

      Thank you for such a clear example of how the Left is founded upon myth and superstition, though, couldn’t have said it better myself.

      • Kaine

        Wilson was a pro-banking ethnocentric Klansman. If that’s ‘Left’ ( and more left than FDR by your account) then you definition is rather warped.

        The Hays code came to pre-empt government legislation. And if you read the article we’re not just talking about governments, we’re talking about social pressures on speech from the wider demos. Comprehension is essential darling.

        So you’re defending McCarthy? Have you no decency sir?

        Conspiracy theory nonsense about Shephard’s death dreamt up by crackpots.

        And of course, a quick glossing over of the suicides of gay teens. You’re a classy bloke aren’t you?

        • the viceroy’s gin

          The Klan was pure Left, lad, and voted with the Left for decades and decades. You’re getting your Left’s mixed up. And the lefty progressives were all about Central banking, a huge lefty cause, of which Wilson was champion as you mention. Pure Left. Globalist. Utopian. Authoritarian. Censoring and jailing opposition. Borderline fascism.

          Left, in other words.

          It was the Left that wanted censorship of media, much like today.

          McCarthy’s crime was pursuing the commies a 1/2 decade after Venona transcripts and the resulting proper personnel sweep removed commies from many key Washington positions, which they’d infested, including some within the oval office. The Cambridge boys had already flown the coop, as well. McCarthy’s crime was being a drunk and airing the dirty laundry, and rousting a few too many people, long years after the horse had fled the barn. The Beltway boys of the time would have rather covered up Roosevelt’s past coddling of the commies and be done with it, but Tailgunner Joe decided to blaze away at the Reds.

          We’ll leave you to your obsessions with homosexuality. It’s best for you and everybody else, most likely.

          • Inverted Meniscus

            On the money Viceroy!

        • Colonel Mustard

          I note the way that in response to a refutation (in which I could detect no overt articulations of hostility or abuse) of your previous “So…” assertions you descend to an emotive straw man – “glossing over of the suicides of gay teens” and then the judgemental pejorative “You’re a classy bloke aren’t you?”

          You like to win don’t you? And you think you are always right about everything don’t you?

          And above all, you think you are really, really cleverer than anyone else don’t you? Especially when you are hurling your bouquets against “the right”. Better take a look in those bouquets. There are shards of broken glass and rusty razor wire and the flowers are poisonous.

          • Inverted Meniscus

            Also, right on the money Colonel!

        • Inverted Meniscus

          You lost the argument and with you spiteful pejoratives are certainly not a “classy bloke”.

    • Inverted Meniscus

      Yes it is but then again Capitalism is the reason we no longer live in caves so on balance, I prefer it to Socialism with its economic destructiveness and visceral hatred of alternative opinions which is the perfect formula for returning us to cave dwelling. Look at any of the intellectually arrogant tripe you post for proof of that hypothesis.

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    • Colonel Mustard

      One wonders with what extraordinary degree of self unawareness and hypocrisy the term “pale and male” can be contrived by the purveyors of the taking offence hair trigger.

  • alabenn

    The problem with the Left is the more their ideas are proved to be idiocies, the more fervently they believe in them, they are conspiracy theorists, who believe the only reason they did not work, was right wing plots or the people are too stupid to do as they should.

    • Kaine

      Do you believe that human activity is leading to a measurable increase in temperatures on a global level above what they would otherwise be?

      • alabenn

        Only a very slight increase if any.
        Other than that, I did not know global warming was solely of the left, although the supposed Conservative belief should really be put down to financial opportunity.

        • Kaine

          I was just trying to ascertain whether you were a climate change denier, in which case calling other people conspiracy theorists would be a bit of a glass houses situation.

          • Colonel Mustard

            Are they of equal pejorative value in the left’s hierarchical lexicon? I would have thought “denier” was up there with ”phobe’ whereas ‘conspiracy theorist’ was lower in outrage value and without equivalence, leaving aside the fact that one implies a negative and the other a positive cognisance. Is there a handy guide somewhere?

            How do lefties homogenise their group speak? Is there a big madrasa somewhere or are you all really like the Borg and have come to assimilate us? Is our resistance futile?

            • Inverted Meniscus

              No. We must stand up and fight Socialism wherever and whenever it rears its ugly head. I like the comparison to the Borg it perfectly encapsulates the unthinking, drone-like and uncompromising determination of the left to ‘nationalise’ what we think and do.

      • The Bellman

        If there were no human activity, who would be measuring the increase in temperature?

        • Kaine

          While I enjoy a good Heisenbergian philosophy riddle as much as the next man, the point was obvious.

      • Inverted Meniscus

        No. AGW does not exist other than as a vehicle for the idiot left to exercise control over people’s lives and to increase taxes.

    • oscargracie

      Okay that came off as like really offensive :)

  • Cooper1992

    I think the problem with the Left Wing away from the Centre ground, is an oversimplication of things. They just don’t seem to understand the many and varied factors that make whole countries, societies and cultures tick.

    The Left Wing do a good job of dreaming up rather utopian world insights, some of which do sound very nice! It should after all be simple to sell ‘equality for all’ right? But actually enacting those worlds is so complicated and in many cases damaging, that they end up creating more problems than they’ve solved.

    I get the feeling sometimes that they advocate change just for the sake of change! When this change ends up wrecking deeply held institutions or beliefs than even more carnage occurs. The wrecking of the family – one of the strongest institutions in the whole of mankind – has caused huge problems to the Western world.

    They also don’t seem to understand that diversity causes inequality, something they really should know seeing as the reason socialism took off amongst miners and millers in the first place is that they operate as one homogenous unit. The United States is ridiculously diverse.

    You are right of course there are aspects of American conservatism that are barmy, but the call for preservation, caution and an acceptance that there will always be problems in the world has kept the United States a strong, free and influential country for centuries now. People that change events go down in history, but it is conservatives that generally hold things together and take a realistic slant on matters that the Left Wing generally trivialise. Perhaps they don’t shout as loud as American university students still in the infancy of life, and conservatives generally have a harder time of ‘going down’ in the annals of history, but it is conservatives that give nations stability, order, and realism.

    • Kaine

      It would be those strange, liberal utopians who founded the place. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal…”

      • Colonel Mustard

        At the time many of those “liberal utopians” were slave owners. A meme for the inherent contradictions of the left as apparent then as it is today.

    • Ricky Strong

      A good post, but I feel the need to say something about your opening paragraph if I may.

      You say that the left oversimplify much in life but I find the opposite. An inspiration and a personal guide for me is Machiavelli. What objectively captures my imagination about his writings are that they are simple, they cut through the fog and present us with ideas of what is, be it for good or for ill. I find that it is in fact the left who complicate matters, they patently ignore reality and create this convoluted idealistic utopia that is founded on ifs and buts and whens – never what is and never about how can we learn from and apply what was. I often apply this line of thinking to the word at large, we are becoming more complicated in our societies and we can see the myriad of problems this is causing. Sometimes things are much easier to understand when we simplify them and reduce them to their smallest parts – they are much easier to deal with in that way.

      I digress.

    • RobertC

      Your reasoning would therefore place CMD well on the Left.

  • VickiBRobinson

    America’s academia, in particular its social science and humanities departments, is of course the birthplace of the ideology we now call political correctness, that is the idea that dissenting views should be forced out of public discourse and the language delegitimised by being branded as hate.

    • FrenchNewsonlin

      Why do you link to some Amazon sales spam?

  • Raw England

    I can no longer find the words to describe what’s happening, Ed.

    Not legally.

    • Kaine

      Well since you can say anything that isn’t libellous or an incitement to violence, we must assume what you want to type is either a lie or urging people to start clobbering each other.

      • Raw England


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