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An afternoon in Tower Hamlets on the stump with Lutfur Rahman

5 April 2014

It’s been a busy week for Lutfur Rahman. On Monday, the mayor of Tower Hamlets was the subject of a Panorama investigation, which alleged he had misdirected public funds. Yesterday, Eric Pickles announced he was sending in PricewaterhouseCoopers to conduct a fraud investigation. Rahman has vehemently denied all of the claims, describing the BBC as ‘Islamophobic’. On Thursday, he announced a ‘community walkabout’ to counter #PanoramaLies, so I decided to go along and find out what Rahman had to say.

Arriving outside at the Sir John Cass School in Stepney this afternoon, I found a group of around 75 waiting for the mayor. There was a fraternal vibe (I did not spot a single woman during my time there) amongst the crowd, who hugged and greeted each other. Nor did they seem pleased to see outsiders, especially when Sunday Express journalist and local blogger Ted Jeory turned up. Rahman supporters flocked across the road to snap our photos, including this one from Councillor Gulam Robbani:

On the topic of the so-called #PanoramaLies, Rahman told the crowd:

‘It’s a distraction from our campaign to help all the people of Tower Hamlets. We’re here to deliver for all of our people — whether they’re white, black or whatever.’

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A police van circled six times during the time I was there and a Tower Hamlets CCTV car drove by twice. Rahman’s team distributed the below leaflets on Panorama, claiming that the programme was wrong:

I’ll let you judge how accurate these statements are, but it’s worth pointing out that on the topic of community grants, the leaflet states ‘The Mayor is completely within his rights to overrule council officers’. Two paragraphs down, it alternatively says ‘All decisions about council spending go through a series of checks and balances that involve council officers’. They also distributed the Autumn 2013 edition of Mayor’s News, which features no-less than seven pictures of Mayor Rahman, along with his achievements to ‘make Tower Hamlets safer’.

The event was marketed as a ‘community walkabout’, but there was precious little walking going on. Rahman spent the 90 minutes I was there posing with a variety supporters, moving no more than ten meters away from the point he initially arrived. As you can see photo above, Rahman’s supporters who turned up hardly represented the wider demographic trends of Tower Hamlets. This is a 2011 breakdown of the borough’s ethnicity:

I spoke to one of his cabinet members, Alibor Choudhury, the man responsible for Tower Hamlets £1.2 billion budget who recently said of Labour’s mayoral candidate ‘Oswald Mosely had his Blackshirts, John Biggs has his Black Cardigans’. Instead of welcoming the Pickles investigation (like Rahman), Choudhury said ‘it’s all really about headline generation’. Yet Choudhury cheerfully posed for a photo:


Lutfur Rahman and Alibor Choudhury

Having attended weekend campaigning sessions with the Tories, Labour and Ukip, I can confidently say that the gathering of Rahman and his ‘Tower Hamlets First’ party is by far the most unnerving, bizarre and amateur. There was very little campaigning and no talk of policies — just posing, posturing and aimless standing around. The Panorama allegations appear to have unnerved Rahman and his supporters, who must be worried about May’s election. The last mayoral election in 2010 had a 25 per cent, where Rahman garnered 52 per cent of the vote. They know that if the turnout is significantly higher this time, Rahman might well be in trouble.

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  • airKoryo

    BBC and Islamophobic? I guess better to name it as Islamophilic

  • harrylime

    The mayor seems obsessed with branding himself in the borough with his image and viewpoints splashed every where. I received a postcard with his achievements in my letterbox with all the other TH residents. Surely he should be paying for this out of his own pocket. If he has nothing to hide put all those tenders, and grants online so residents can judge for themselves who won or lost. I now hear they want to move the town hall, at what cost, when the Poplar building is fit for purpose and not in any decay? The move to the historic old Whitechapel hospital along from the citadel notorious Mosque, which influences nearly all business in that area.Along with shabby market that he also intends to re brand for Crossrail it seems there is no end to his ambition. I noticed at Eid the market was practically empty and wonder how many non Asian stallholders have pitches there, the same as Bethnal Green road. Its difficult being a non Muslim, secular, non Asian voter in TH as there appears no one you could trust with your vote. I dont see why taxpayers money is being given to religious groups who can fund their own building improvements, especially in one of the poorest boroughs where old white pensioners still in the borough deserve more than one ‘cockney knees up party’ to celebrate their heritage. Its more a them and us situation instead of this Disney multicultural experience myth.Due to the apathetic white voters who stay away looks like this wont be the end of the matter. Although the timing of all this and the sudden appearance of the Evening Standard at more DLR stations might wake some up to the Mayors freesheet delivered to most TH homes at this crucial election.Oh i have lived here for over 30 years and have seen the changes.

  • FrenchNewsonlin

    Delightful. An imported carbon copy of the sub-continent’s basest tribal politics run for the benefit of extended family, clan and religion and very familiar to readers of the Pakistan Times, the Bengali News and the Bangladeshi Gazette. Now if anyone cared to review the full names of TH councillors and “community association” leaders backing the Mayor, they might turn up some useful clues about how patronage works in these all-in-the-family “democracies”.(Remember Labour’s Baroness Uddin?)

  • jesseventura2

    How many women in the Islamic republic of tower hamlets still have the clitoris fantasy allah gave them?

  • Raw England

    You do realise that, eventually, these people will literally be the government, right? Due to demographics alone.

    Enoch Powell was obviously right; everybody is acutely aware of that. But Enoch could not have imagined in his worst nightmares that we’d end up being governed by Hostile Immigrants.

  • another opinion

    The Mayor is a most wonderful man honest and very kind to white gay males like me.
    May God Preserve him the only honest man in politics

    • GraveDave

      He’s waiting to pat your head. But do wait until the film crew get there.
      Does Tower Hamlets have any Gay Pride events – btw-?
      And if not maybe this is a good time to ask why not.

      • another opinion

        Hi Grave Dave . I think the Mayor is very busy at the moment with his free newspaper and grants to the local Bangla TV station to worry about us.
        As soon as he is back there will be Gay Pride marches and Hog Roasts
        You can bet your bottom dollar

  • GraveDave

    We’re here to deliver for all of our people — whether they’re white, black or whatever.’

    Says He, now that the cameras are coming. But he’s been proved a liar. As usual the D/T has closed all comments to these Rahman stories.

  • Bengali Boy

    I’d urge you to look at the Labour Candidate John Bigg’s social media page and count the number of white people in the group photos, probably 1 more white person than in each of Lutfur’s pics! Biggs is courting the Bengalis too. If you have an issue with Bengali influence I’d suggest you to vote Tory, EDL green or Lib Dem!

    • GraveDave

      The EDL are finished mate…

  • Simon Fay

    A chunk of Bangladesh in a city on the far side of the world from the mother country, digging in, and recce-ing those who just might act as a channel for their being dislodged a bit. Hooray for the post-national market-state.

  • KingGreen

    Grass is green, fire is hot, Muslims lie.

  • Graeme S

    This demographic is the most corrupt, most nepotistic , most dis-honest you will ever see. Welcome to modern Britain

  • John Baptiste

    As a resident of Tower Hamlets, I look forward to seeing our bent Caliph doing time in Belmarsh along with the rest of his Islamist thieves.

    • KingGreen

      any chance of having the odd aryan criminals in there too?
      i’d love to see these 2 groups beating the cr@p out of each other

      • John Baptiste

        Do you know of any Aryan Criminals working for Tower Hamlets Council?

        • KingGreen

          i meant Belmarsh

        • DavEd CamerBand

          I doubt they would be selected.

  • SimonNorwich

    This was on a Thursday. Why weren’t any of these people at work?

    • KingGreen


    • wiggiatlarge .

      Quite simple, if they are Muslim males 50% don’t work and if they are Somali’s 90% don’t work, fact.

      • KingGreen

        you bloody racist!

        don;t you know that the poor somalis have to take it easy, to get over their traumatic experiences with pirates/themselves?

      • HookesLaw

        ‘2011 census identified 101,370 people in England and Wales who were born in Somalia’ – cor blimey we are being swamped.
        ‘Many Somali households are headed by women who came to Britain without their husbands. ‘
        ‘In 2000 just one Somali teenager in the London borough of Camden passed five GCSEs with good grades. To improve matters, the council and others set up the Somali Youth Development Resource Centre, which mentors
        students and lends them books. Last year the figure rose to 59%.’
        ‘Somalis played little part in the summer riots of 2011.’

        • wiggiatlarge .
        • GraveDave

          ‘In 2000 just one Somali teenager in the London borough of Camden passed five GCSEs with good grades. To improve matters, the council and others set up the Somali Youth Development Resource Centre, which mentors
          Well, in the kingdom of the blind and all that. But as we’re hardening ourselves to come down on benefit claimants(scroungers or otherwise), those with an extra room (inc those with carers), the crippled, the autistic, the blind, the mentally ill, then doing away with legal aid…. how is it we can still afford all these social workers to fix these cultural maladies. Some of the schools in west London seem to have half as many ‘teaching assistants’ as teachers. Most doctors surgeries have to have on hand interpreters… same for the town halls… and police stations… Where will it all end.

          • DavEd CamerBand

            Oh dear, do you even understand the “bedroom tax” as you most likely refer to it as?

            the taxpayer is subsidising people to have homes, paid for by the state, with spare rooms they do not USE. This is effectively a spare room subsidy. Britain can not afford it and nor can the taxpayer. THE TAX PAYERS WERE PAYING FOR SPARE ROOMS This ended last year, now the tax payers arent paying for the spare rooms.

            Housing Benefit claimants living in social housing with spare bedrooms will be expected to make a contribution towards the rent for those spare rooms. THIS IS NOT A TAX, THEY ARE PAYING FOR WHAT THEY RECEIVE. YOU WOULDN’T RENT A ROOM IN A HOTEL AND ACCUSE THE HOTEL OF TAXING YOU the cost of the extra room is £14 a week. They have every opportunity to move to smaller accommodation suited to their needs.

            It is not right to make families wait and wait for a house that is big enough, while other households on benefits are allowed to live in homes that are too big for their needs, at no extra cost. Many working families cannot afford the luxury of having spare bedrooms, and Government cannot afford to pay for bedrooms that are not needed.


            this coalition inherited a housing crisis from them where Housing Benefit had doubled in ten years to £21billion – a cost of £900 to every household in the country. Furthermore, by letting house building fall to the lowest levels since the 1920’s, Labour in government ensured that 250,000 households ended up living in overcrowded accommodation. Not once have Labour apologised for this mess. the housing waiting list DOUBLED UNDER LABOUR.

            • GraveDave

              Lol, so when people were first given those houses /flats/maisonettes/ all those years ago – in many cases up to twenty – thirty – FORTY years ago even – in which case the property would have almost certainly have been as good as paid for – were they asked to sign a contract offering to give up their homes once the rooms were ‘vacant’ . No – they wasn’t. So why should they pay now? Especially as its no council tenant’s fault that the country is running short of properties with available bedrooms. ITS NO COUNCIL TENANT’S FAULT THAT IMMIGRATION WAS ALLOWED O GET SO OUT OF CONTROL. And there are cited examples where people have been made to pay even though they have proven medical need of those rooms.


              They have every opportunity to move to smaller accommodation suited to their needs.

              And have you really thought this one through? Or should I tear it to pieces for you all over again?

              • DavEd CamerBand

                They DO NOT own these homes! This is where you are going wrong. The government owns them, paid for by the tax-payers.
                I agree that it’s not their fault that immigration is out of control (although the majority DID vote for it), and had they bought their own home they wouldn’t have the problem. If it was so simple that the council just “gave” you a home for EVER then everyone would be doing it, why on earth do you think people work so hard to get their own homes? BECAUSE IT’S THEIRS!

                These medical cases DO NOT have to pay extra, this stipulation was included. Just because a few instances the system has made a mistake, (very few, just leaped on by the left-wing media) it doesn’t mean the premise of the idea is corrupted.

                • GraveDave

                  They never put in any contract that once bedrooms become empty, which in many instances doesn’t mean the same as unused, that the person would one day have to be taxed fro them. And yes, you can call it bedroom subsidy’ or whatever, but anyone can see the con – if they really want to. So bedroom tax it is. Also – and quote: ‘it was never about saving money’ . Course it wasn’t – it was about attacking benefit claimants – or in your language perhaps, ‘scroungers.
                  Though you do know that most people claiming HB are working?

                • GraveDave

                  These medical cases DO NOT have to pay extra, this stipulation was included

                  And no it wasn’t – not properly. And people deliberately left ignorant have died as a result.

                • DavEd CamerBand

                  I never claimed the council put that in the contract…… Just as I wasn’t told my council tax would go up this year. Sorry, are council tenants supposed to be treated like kings? Why so?

                  They do NOT own these houses, please understand why people like me bother to work so hard for our homes.

                  Who are you quoting? It is about housing 1 million people with the 1 million spare rooms.

                  This policy is not about attacking anyone, why would the government pointlessly attack a group in their society? You would rather see it as a cruel attack for which the gov gains nothing that it for what it really is. FAIRNESS. People who work hard to buy their house can’t afford the luxury of spare rooms so why should they fund other people to have that luxury?

                  I think these people are scroungers. They are depriving another family of a home for selfish reasons. I hope they are all working as there are plenty of jobs available, so much so that we have to import our labour force.

        • DavEd CamerBand

          I was reading an article in this self-named, “black newspaper” where they JUST cover black stories (clearly not racist…..)

          Where I read an article about how Dianne Abbott was choosing a winner for the “black achiever of the year award”.

          I do like all this fairness, I look forward to the day when we have TRUE equality.

  • Fergus Pickering

    He has refuted nothing. He has denied it. You journos ought to buy yourselves dictionaries. Never mind, there are always people like me to put you right..

    • John Baptiste

      You are either on Team Luftur’s payroll, or you have never been to Tower Hamlets. The stench of corruption makes you gag.

      • Fergus Pickering

        Why are you addressing your remarks to me? Of course the fellow is corrupt. That goes without saying

  • Two Bob

    If this is England, where are the English?

    • John Baptiste

      There’s me two bob, but I’m moving out in June.

  • Doctor Mick

    He denied the claims; he did not refute them.

  • DavEd CamerBand

    Goodbye England. Confined to the History books.

  • Common Sense ✟ كافر

    The genocide of the East End English cockney! Not only mass immigration , but mass immigration from one of the most backward and alien cultures on the planet.

    • HookesLaw

      What a sick comment and typical of the pudrid rabble rousing Spectator to allow it.

      • bugalugs2

        In what respect is a comment about mass immigration into the East End displacing the pre-existing population not true?

  • SilentHunter

    Why are there no women in the picture?

    Don’t their votes count?

    Mind you . . . it’s nice of them to include the “token white guy”. :o)

    • 2trueblue

      Don’t worry, their votes will be counted, except that their votes will be posted off for them!

      • SilentHunter

        Too true, Blue. :0)

    • Jhno

      They were probably at home watching the Grand National.

    • DavEd CamerBand

      I hope they are hounded for it in the same way UKIP are:

      • HookesLaw

        They are being hounded – you are commenting on an arfticle hounding them. Corruption deserves to be hounded.

        • DavEd CamerBand

          Please take time to read the comment to which mine was in reply.

          I am talking about the “progressive” non-white photo.

        • SilentHunter

          “…Corruption deserves to be hounded…”

          Unless of course it’s your pin-up, Maria Miller. LOL

    • Shazza

      In primitive ideologies women don’t count unless it is just for childbearing and drudgery. They are considered to be 2nd class citizens and should be hidden from view lest they provoke uncontrolled lust in their men.

      • SilentHunter

        Are we allowed to say that? ;0)

        • Shazza

          Are we not allowed to criticise ideologies? Can we not criticise Nazism? Or Communism? Or Fascism?

          • SilentHunter


            It was merely a rhetorical question. :0.

            • Shazza

              Apologies. I thought you might be cautioning me regarding moderation of the comments.

              • SilentHunter

                No apology required. :o)

  • LonnieDHoward

    Rahman’s team distributed these leaflets on Panorama, explaining why the programme was wrong:

  • WatTylersGhost

    I agree, for a community with such a high birth rate there doesn’t seem to be many women around in the photos. Another wonderful example of the benefits of multi-culti diversity.

    • telemachus

      I guess you hit the nail on the head
      There is a marked coincidence of identity between the Farage personality cult fruitcakes and the Rahman band of merry men

      • WatTylersGhost


        • telemachus

          Men with no creed beyond agrandisment

          • Colonel Mustard

            Apart from your misogyny sounds like the Fabians and Common Purpose. Two cheeks on the same spotty red backside.

          • Colonel Mustard

            Oh, and on the subject of Welsh Labour, which was another of your attempts to bully and intimidate. the “authorities” do need to look closely. In fact Mr Pickles has looked closely:-

            “Outside Tower Hamlets, there’s another part of the world where they have shut the door on openness.

            A place where there is no transparency agenda.

            Where bloggers who try to film council meetings get handcuffed and arrested by the police.

            It’s not Putin’s Russia.

            It’s on the map. Look left, far left… to Labour-run Wales.

            That’s what a Labour Government would look like.

            In Wales, Labour offer more weak leadership and the same failed old ideas.

            The Welsh economy has suffered as a result.

            House building is up a third in England, but falling in Wales.

            Labour have hit the housing market with red tape, adding up to thousands to the cost of building a new home.

            They’ve cut the Right to Buy.

            They botched Help to Buy.

            House builders are upping their ladders and moving across to England.

            Council tax is going through the roof.

            Welsh bills are soaring by twice the rate of inflation.

            There is no council tax freeze.

            There is no democratic right for local taxpayers to veto high rises.

            From April, council tax bills in Cardiff will be £180 a year more than a Band D home in Chelsea.

            And what do you get for it?

            The OECD say schools in Wales are the worst in the United Kingdom.

            They’re plummeting down international league tables.

            Services are worse.

            It’s official Labour policy in Wales to move to monthly bin collections.

            In the NHS, waiting times are shockingly high.

            Dying patients are deprived of cancer drugs they would get in England.”

          • DavEd CamerBand

            1. they start taxing at £6,500…….. compared to the coalition’s £10,500..if they represented the working man why tax low-paid workers so harshly forcing them onto benefits as they are better off on them?????)

            2. they didn’t regulate the banks in 13 years. (Blair now a banker worth upwards of 60 MILLION- and he started the new labour movement…..) Google “Peter Mandelson on yacht with Nat Rothschild” “Google Brown at Bilderberg” etc.

            3. more tax has been paid by top earners EVERY year under the coalition than ANY under labour.

            4. They want to increase debt BY £3,200 per person

            5. spend 11.6% more than they take in tax.

            6. they destroyed our economy. Labour presided over the slowest growth in 50 years, they produced the fastest decline in British manufacturing since manufacturing began, they left us mired in the longest recession since the war, they bequeathed maybe the largest deficit in peacetime history, and they handed over a debt so huge we will still be repaying it when the earth is swallowed by an expanding sun, a cosmological termination which might therefore come as some relief.

            7. they want to continue to send 57million a day to the EU

            8. they want higher immigration (last time allowed the biggest mass immigration into the United Kingdom in our nation’s history: three million people, possibly more than entered these island in the preceding 1,000 years combined.)

            9. they have destroyed the NHS in Wales (where they are currently in power, why wouldn’t they do it here too?????- the coalition have ring-fenced our NHS budget so they CAN’T cut it, but labour will.) Our last labour government blew £250,000,000 on private surgery because their NHS was so bad1,200 died in Mid-Staffordshire Hospital alone, that’s more than died in Mid-Staffordshire during the Black Death.
            along with their gagging orders on whistle blowers within the NHS

            10. they raid the pensions.

            11. Iraq+Afghanistan.

            12.They sold off 400 tons of UK gold reserves and invested the money elsewhere (including in euros, compare the change in the value of gold to the change in the value of the euro in recent years if you have some free time).

            13. run by the unions

            14. They bloated the welfare budget.

            15. They didn’t keep up with house building when demand rocketed, allowing house prices to triple

            16. They failed to build a lot of necessary infrastructure such as power stations.

            17. they didn’t invest in infrastructure (despite borrowing 1 trillion and taking 13 years of tax) Well, yes: they built the Millennium Dome. It’s easy to forget the Millennium Dome, because, after all, who would want to remember it, but this thing burned up 800 million pounds, was maybe the greatest marketing flop in recorded time, and it turned out to be a great big dirty tent where queueing families could pay £60, just to look at uplifting representations of litter.

            18. They continually increased fuel duty by over 107%, harming motorists.

            19. They signed the Lisbon treaty, giving vast amounts of power to the EU and going against their own manifesto in with they specifically said they would give the people a referendum.

            20. Allowing rich people to buy peerages.

            21. Started HS2

            22. And the icing on the cake, they left us with the largest budget deficit in the G20 relative to GDP.

            23.They lumbered the NHS with vast PFI repayments which are coming out of Foundation trusts and straight into the pockets of the private sector. £50 Billion’s worth of loans which are costing us £300 Billion in repayments-genius!…….

            24. Housing waiting lists DOUBLED under Labour

            25. Europe. labour’s biggest achievement in Europe was to give away half our precious rebate, won by Thatcher, at a cost to you and me of £9 billion so far – and in return they got precisely nothing, unless you count a chortling, after-dinner promise from Jacques Chirac, that he’d make Tony Blair President of the EU, which he didn’t. A small mercy.

            26. Education. ensuring English youngsters are amongst the worst educated in the western world, and closing the grammar schools preventing the poor from achieving.

            27. giving everyones personal information to america

   “labour MP wants muslim prime minister”

            29. they can’t even run their party finances ( lost 2 million recently in banking)

            30. The party is almost identical to the previous labour government who got us in to this mess (ed balls).

            31. Google “labour25”

            32. Medi Hassan wrote Miliband’s biography is a militant muslim who described westerners as animals (a video you can find on here)

            33. The espouse the same political policies and views as the French President Hollande which is destroying France, where the rich have left youth unemployment is at 25% and they have seen the largest drop in investment for over 60 years.

            As for the Labour Party right now, they’ve opposed every cut that aims to tackle the deficit their party created and are not offering a plan of what they would do differently. Apart from keeping all the cuts (which they are opposed to)

      • Colonel Mustard

        Wrong tactics. The more that you and your fellow travellers attempt to smear UKIP and clamp down on the people with your loony left policies the better UKIP will do.

        Their percentage of the vote in General Elections rose from 0.3% in 1997 to 3.1% in 2010, mainly thanks to Tony Blair and Gordon Brown.

        In the European Parliament it rose from 1% in 1994 to 16.6% in 2009 and from 0 seats to 13 seats, with 155,000 votes rising to almost two and a half million votes.

        Despite the constant smearing, belittling and dirty tricks UKIP is advancing and will continue to advance. Nasty little spuds like you gobbing off about them are great recruiting posters because the sheer malevolence and unpleasantness of what UKIP are up against is plain to see.

        • telemachus

          “This user’s activity is private.”

          • Colonel Mustard

            The latest silly film from Labour Studios is ‘Carry on Smearing’ featuring that well known comedy clown telemachus and his funny little games. Laugh near to bursting at his catchphrases. Roll in the aisles at his antics.

            What a larf!

            • SilentHunter

              So why is your profile hidden?

              • telemachus


                • Colonel Mustard


              • Colonel Mustard

                “This user’s activity is private.”

                • SilentHunter

                  Yeeeeees! I know that, well done; the question is why?

                  Presumably you have something to hide?

                • Colonel Mustard

                  I am not aware of any requirement to publicly explain my exercise of free will to a person hiding behind the pseudonym ‘SilentHunter’ and a silly avatar.

                  And your presumption is just that. A presumption.

                  I did not announce the change. It required no comment. It is only the stalking habits of the troll telemachus that brought publication combined with another ad hominem presumption from him. All of which is grist to the mill.

                • SilentHunter


                  But presumably you aren’t the real Colonel Mustard from Cluedo “hiding your real name behind a silly pseudonym” and being unable to get your head around how to upload an avatar. ;o)

                  The difference is . . . my comments are made public, since I have nothing to hide.

                  Transparency, old boy!

                  I suspect the real reason is to stop folk being able to call you out over things you’ve said previously which contradict more recent statements.

                  It’s always tricky to remember what you’ve said when it’s . . . ahem . . . shall we say; “economical with the truth”.


                • Colonel Mustard

                  I don’t think the Colonel Mustard in Cluedo is real. I am.

                  I know how to upload an avatar. I choose not to.

                  I’m not interested in how you might be different. Your ego is not a matter for my concern, thanks.

                  Transparency is for governments. I am not a government.

                  You can suspect what you like but your persistent interest in the matter is becoming borderline creepy.

                  Have a nice life. Old boy.

                • SilentHunter

                  Only borderline?

        • HookesLaw

          UKIP is deleriously happy because he know UKIP will gift power to Labour.

      • The_Average_Joe_UK

        some would call you stupid.

        …… or a lefty, same thing.

        • HookesLaw

          No he is right. You and the other fruit loop believe the son shines out of Farage’s backside. You and your fellow ciultists cannot see the similarity betwee the the sets of bigots.

          • Colonel Mustard

            HookesLaw (supposed) Conservative agrees with telemachus , tribal Labourite and Communist.

            Neatly encapsulates the problem the British public face.

      • ArchiePonsonby

        I suspect that the “fruitcakes” of UKIP have the best interests of the UK at heart far more than the followers of Rah-Rahman!

    • Shazza

      A glimpse in the not too distant future for what awaits the good subjects aka dhimmis of the UK.

      How prescient was the late, great Enoch Powell.

      Thank you Blair and all the rest of the Labour traitors.
      We are reaping what you have sown.

      • HookesLaw

        Don’t talk garbage. You need tp spend more time polishing your tatoos.

        • Shazza

          The paucity of your arguments again, Hooky, are reflected in your ad hominem attacks.

        • Pootles

          At the time of the book burnings in Bradford (supported by the Labour MP Keith Vaz as ‘an historic moment for the Asian commnity’), Muslims made up 1% of the UK’s population; they now make up 5% of the UK’s population, and 10% of the primary school population. Can you see a trend there?

          • Samuel Kaine Wheeler

            How can a child of six be a Muslim anymore than he can be a Marxist or a Hayekian?

            • Pootles

              Don’t be obtuse. A child of 6 takes his/her identity from his/her parents/carers. In our multi-cultural society there is every likelihood that a child of Muslim parents will grow up to be part of the Muslim ‘community’. They will have little choice in the matter. For a reasonably close comparison, look at the ‘choices’ facing young people born into the two main ‘faith commnities’ in Northern Ireland.

              • Samuel Kaine Wheeler

                Surely then the solution is to ensure these children have choices, and are not forced to depend upon their community patriarchs for employment? To ensure a rigorous scientific curriculum to take them from the grasping mitts of imams, just as we have taken children from the covetous hands of the priests?

                Since you mention Northern Ireland, it is of course intriguing that the birth-rate among the Catholic population has declined hand in hand with the acquisition of civil rights by that community. Humans are odd. Repressing us tends to make us have more babies.

                • Pootles

                  Indeed, I would agree – and I doubt whether Luftie and his cohorts would go for that option. I would also be keen to see an end to all tax payer funding for any religious school.

      • Samuel Kaine Wheeler

        These would be the Blairites that brought in a million young, white, Catholic Eastern Europeans? Who ensured that Polish, not Bengali or Urdu or Punjabi was the second language of Britain?

        The ‘dhimmi’ rhetoric fails on even it’s own measures.

        Of course, if you really cared about some demographic time bomb there’s a wonderful way to stop it. More educated women tend to have fewer children. You should volunteer your time and effort to a charity which specialises in boosting access to education for women from Asian backgrounds. It would accomplish your goals, and give you a wonderful card to play next time someone calls you a racist. “Me? I’ll have you know I teach disadvantaged women literacy every week! Let me show you the wonderful letters Selena and Shilpa have written for me…”

        • Shazza

          70% of the immigration under Labour came from outside the EU.
          I don’t see any other demographic in this country marching down British streets demanding that anyone who ‘insults’ their primitive beliefs, should be beheaded.
          “young, white Catholic Eastern Europeans” share the same values as indigenous British values, i.e., an evolved 21st century civilisation derived from Greek/Roman/Judeo/Christian principles – summed up in the Golden Rule.
          These young Eastern European people will contribute and assimilate to British culture the same way as the Huguenots, Jews and other European immigrants have done in previous centuries.
          I have no regard for ideologies that espouse FGM, child marriage, polygamy, honour killings, hand chopping, stoning, etc.

          • Samuel Kaine Wheeler

            You realise the ‘outside the EU’ number includes Americans, Canadians, Australians, etc etc right?

            • Shazza

              Yup, and those would be the same skilled 1st world immigrants that will assimilate and contribute to the economy and the culture of this country the same way as the “young, white Catholic Eastern Europeans” will.

  • CortUK

    That main picture shows an unbelievably non-diverse racial group. Shocking. Just one token white face. I’m calling the EHRC. It’s high time groups like this reflected the society in which they live and minorities are not excluded.


    • DavEd CamerBand

      If that was a UKIP photo with all white faces I wonder how the media would react….. Oh that’s right its actually happened:

      • HookesLaw

        So its official Farage and his party are just as bigoted as Rahman.

        • DavEd CamerBand

          Hardly, UKIP has plenty of “non-whites” (or whatever term the current PC fad dictates).

          I never called “Rahaman” a bigot, however, I would like to see a less “progressive” photo.

          The difference is in his constituency Asians make up 50%, in the UK (UKIP’s constituency) that figure is far far smaller…. Yet UKIP are supposed to pander to the minorities? Why?

          This does not mean his candidacy is racist, it just means more Asians support him, possibly because he represents their views. It has been proven in the US for example that many Obama voters simply vote for him because he’s black.

          Either way, they should come under the same scrutiny as UKIP, especially since most people in the UK are white and Asians are minority in his constituency…… but this isn’t even mentioned here.

          • ArchiePonsonby

            Why DON’T you call him a bigot? He blames the investigation into his financial dealings on (All together now!) “racism” and “anti-Islamic sentiment”. One thing is dead certain: he’s playing us for complete suckers!

            • DavEd CamerBand

              He most likely is a bigot, but I was defending an attack from someone who claimed it was “official” that because Farage was hounded by the media and this man isn’t they must both therefore, for some alien reason be “bigots”.

              • ArchiePonsonby

                Hmmmm. Thanks for clarifying.

                • DavEd CamerBand

                  What is the “Hmmmm” for?

                • ArchiePonsonby

                  Obvious, innit?

                • DavEd CamerBand

                  Not really, I am aware it expresses doubt, but I don’t know what there is to doubt, all I’ve done is summarise the above, you can see it for yourself.

    • WatTylersGhost

      And how many smiling faces? A glimpse of the cheerless future of Britain under the miserable fist of the RoP.

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