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David Cameron interview: tax, ‘green crap’ and #TeamNigella

10 December 2013

A sneak preview from The Spectator’s bumper Christmas issue, out this Thursday…

It’s 9.30 a.m. on a Friday and David Cameron is about to head for his Oxfordshire constituency and work from home. This is precisely the habit that his Cabinet Office minister, Francis Maude, is trying to beat out of the civil service, but the Prime Minister has a reasonable claim to some downtime. In the past five days he has met 150 businessmen and toured Chinese cities. This morning, he has paid a visit to Tech City, London’s answer to Silicon Valley, and travelled to South Africa House to pass on his condolences following Nelson Mandela’s death. His last appointment, which will last for as long as it takes to drive to Beaconsfield service station, is an interview with The Spectator.

I’m ushered into the back of his car to wait for him, and sit next to his battered prime ministerial red box. It’s one hell of a temptation for a journalist, given that it’s supposed to be chock-full of secrets. As I eye it, wondering if the security is as ancient as the box itself, his chauffeur clears his throat and narrows his eyes at me in the rear-view mirror. Then the PM’s door opens, he jumps in and we pull off. ‘So this interview is for your Christmas special,’ he says. ‘That’s the one that sits around the house for weeks. Well, I’d better get this right.’

It is, he says, eight years and one day since he became leader of the Conservative party. But he didn’t celebrate. ‘I went out for dinner with Samantha and a couple of friends, but I don’t think anyone was aware of the date. I was — 5 December is a big day in my life.’ His campaign message, then, was ‘change to win’. Of course he didn’t exactly win and ended up with Nick Clegg and the Liberal Democrats. After three years of coalition, the frustrations are starting to show.

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David Cameron in South Africa House, a few minutes before jumping in his car for his Spectator interview. (Photo: Nick Ansell – WPA Pool/Getty)

The increasingly annoying Liberal Democrats

‘Increasingly, today, I feel very strongly and see very clearly the case for more accountable, more decisive and active government.’ He means government without the Lib Dems. He starts to reel off his areas of frustration. “I think we could go further on welfare reform, to sharpen work incentives and get more people out of poverty, I think that on the European question I can see very clearly now what needs to be done in terms of our relationship with Europe, in terms of the European convention on human rights and the way the human rights act works.  I can see when it comes to building a pro-enterprise economy how we go further and faster on backing entrepreneurship, cutting business taxes, getting our economy moving.”

The coalition is still strong and radical, he says, ‘but because of what I see as the problems facing Britain — and what I want to do next as Prime Minister — I feel very passionately that I want single party government’. It’s strange, I say, he doesn’t come across as a man held captive by the perfidious Liberal Democrats. ‘I don’t believe that you succeed in government by sitting around whingeing about what you can’t do,’ he says. ‘But I’m happy to tell you — and Spectator readers — privately that there’s a good list of things I have put in my little black book that I haven’t been able to do which will form the next Tory manifesto.’

(Photo: Mark Richards - WPA Pool/Getty Images)

The partner he’d like to ditch: Cameron and Clegg (Photo: Mark Richards – WPA Pool/Getty Images)

Green crap

When Cameron stood for Tory leader he had a wind turbine fitted to the roof of his north Kensington house. This Christmas, he’s vying with Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg to offer voters cheaper power. The Prime Minister has been quoted as saying, ‘We’ve got to get rid of all this green crap.’ He doesn’t deny using the phrase, saying only that he doesn’t ‘recall using it’. But he has been ‘concerned about the eco’, by which he means the way that green levies were loaded on to bills rather than funded through general taxation.

‘It’s taken me longer to reform eco than I would like — sometimes, in a coalition, that happens.’ Those perfidious Lib Dems again. He still rejects the idea of tension between green energy and affordable energy. ‘I would describe shale gas as a green energy source that can cut energy costs,’ he says. But he still wants to subsidise those ‘renewable technologies which otherwise wouldn’t get off the ground. So was it right to put in place incentives for wind, wave, solar. Should you have those incentives for longer than necessary? No you shouldn’t.’  So the husky-hugging agenda is still there; it’s just tempered with a few more policies aimed at keeping the lights on.

Trade missions: corporate vs national interest?

Cameron still seems to sign up to the environmentalists’ idea that aircraft should carry as many people as possible: he seldom travels abroad without a Boeing full of chief executives. His ‘trade-first’ foreign policy was at its most visible in his recent trip to China, where he was accompanied by over 100 company chiefs and entrepreneurs. To some, this demonstrates an admirable commitment to enterprise. To others (myself included), it’s a depressing sign that Britain judges countries by how much they have to spend.


‘I know you’re a sceptic about trade missions,’ he says. ‘But I think they do make a difference…I can show you the list of letters and emails and stories saying: ‘because I’m on the visit’, ‘because that gives me the stamp of authority that opens up new deals and opens up new avenues’.

But is there a danger, I ask, of conflating national interest with corporate interests? When the Arab Spring broke out, for example, Cameron was touring the Gulf with arms companies. I put it to him that this was not a good look.

‘Well I’m not interested in looks, I’m interested in results — and I think Britain has a very strong and entirely legitimate defence industry and it’s right that we make the most of that,’ he says. ‘If you look at the trade missions, I take a lot of SMEs, trade organisations as well as just big firms.” So small corporations, as well as big ones. But some of them, he says, need politicians to seal deals. ‘With major hydrocarbon contracts, major defence contracts, you need the involvement of the government. Deals wouldn’t happen necessarily without the involvement of the government. I think standing up for British jobs, British investment, British manufacturing is a very important part of my job.’

The Dalai Lama non grata

I ask about the China trip: is it true that the price of taking his business friends to Beijing was his promising not to meet the Dalai Lama again? ‘I’ve met him in opposition, I’ve met him in government, I don’t have any plans to meet him,’ he says.

Q: But would you be open to seeing him again before the next election?

A: No, I said I don’t have plans to meet him.

Q: I understand, but are you open to the notion or are you closed to the notion?

A: I don’t have any plans.

Q: I understand, but the implication is that you are closed to the notion except you wouldn’t say so in public.

A: Well I think I’ve answered the question.

We move on.

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Cameron is understood to have promised the Chinese not to see the Dalai Lama again. (Photo: PA)

Tax cuts: he wants them. But not yet.

The other way to help business — cutting taxes — is going rather well. The top rate of tax has been cut from 50p to 45p and the richest are now paying more income tax than ever. Cameron feels vindicated. ‘I knew we would get attacked for it, but I thought the evidence was so strong that actually cutting the top rate of tax would probably result in more revenue,’ he says. ‘I thought, you can’t just not do something because you’re going to be attacked, that’s just feeble politics.’ His original plan was to cut the tax to 40p, but the Lib Dems vetoed it. Is that the next stop? He purses his lips. ‘I will leave tax as a matter for the Chancellor,’ he says. ‘I am a low-tax Conservative.’

Still, in effect, the ‘welfare trap’ means that the top rate of tax for the poorest is 87 per cent — that is to say, some of the lowest paid in Britain keep only 13p of each extra pound they earn, because welfare is quickly withdrawn from those who try to increase their income through more work. Iain Duncan Smith’s Universal Credit reform aims to remedy this, and introduce, in effect, a top rate of 65 per cent. Still outrageously high, but even this change is subject to repeated delays.

‘It is an important reform and I make no apology for introducing it slowly,’ says Cameron. ‘What matters is getting it right and making sure that the system works well. I don’t want a system where people suffer or struggle because of change from one system to the other.’ But when it is up and running, might a Chancellor stand up on Budget day and update the nation on the real tax rate for the poor and perhaps reduce it below 50 per cent? ‘I would love to see that happen,’ he says. ‘You’ve got to deliver a system where every pound you earn, you keep a good portion of it. My aim is low marginal tax rates for everybody, especially the poor.’ But the welfare trap remains.

Immigration: time to deport EU nationals

And this, of course, means a system half of the rise in employment is driven by immigrants. As Cameron knows. ‘I was very struck on a visit to a factory in my own constituency where I think 50 per cent to 60 per cent of the workforce were Latvian, Lithuanian or Polish,’ he says. ‘It was a company that made the strips on cars…paying £7.30 an hour, so £1 over minimum wage. These people do come here and work hard. I’ve always said that to me, immigration, education and welfare is a three sided coin. We’ve got to crack each, we’ve got to make sure we get each bit right, and we won’t solve this problem unless we do all three things.’

This also involves getting tougher with immigrants – and deporting those who can’t don’t work. Even EU nationals. “We are changing that not just for Romanians and Bulgarians, we are changing that for everybody. It is a change you can make and that is a change we are making. Rough sleepers, people who don’t have means of support, begging, people who’d be better off in their own countries where they would have access to benefits – they will be removed.”

But for as long as they come here to work – and that the unreformed welfare system pays British people to stay on the dole – you can expect foreign-born workers to account for most of the increase in employment. We have been making this point on Coffee House but noticed last week that the British-born workers slipped over the 50 per cent mark. ‘I saw your blog,’ Cameron says, ‘that the domestic born workers have overtaken. Congratulations on a correction anyway.’

Why he’s on #TeamNigella

We pass a road sign that says ‘Beaconsfield Services’, which is my four-minute warning. I ask a question I feel sure he’ll dodge: about the trial of two of Charles Saatchi’s former housemaids and the revelation that his ex-wife, Nigella Lawson, used cocaine. Her fans have rushed to her defence: ‘Team Nigella’ is used as a hashtag on Twitter and even sprayed on city walls. So when  I ask “Are you on Team Nigella?” I expect him to stay out of it. Instead, he offers a direct answer.

“I am,’ he says. ‘I’m a massive fan, I’ve had the great pleasure of meeting her a couple of times and she always strikes me as a very funny and warm person, but I’m also an amateur cook and I like like her recipes. Nancy [Cameron’s nine-year-old daughter] and I sometimes watch a bit of Nigella on telly. Not in court, I hasten to add.’

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Cameron watches her on TV. But did’t watch her enter court (or so he claims). (Photo: Getty)

Cameron’s book of the year: ‘Why Nations Fail’

Does he have any book recommendations? He singles out Beautiful Ruins, a novel by Jess Walter (‘a brilliant book about Richard Burton’). “Samantha reads lot of novels. Every now and again she says: right, this one is a real cracker. But in fact she didn’t recommend Beautiful Ruins.

But he says he is ‘obsessed’ with Why Nations Fail, by two American academics who argue that a nation’s fate is determined not by its culture or geography but by the strength of its institutions (property rights, courts, education). It’s up to politicians, the book argues, to safeguard those institutions and make sure power is distributed broadly rather than by an elite. All this is catnip to Cameron. ‘Someone said to me: you only like this book because it’s two academics who have written a very complicated book that confirms all your prejudices,” he says. “I said, well, what’s wrong with that?’ It is such a good read and I think it’s a very good guide for policymakers and for diplomacy”.

Mumford & Sons: by appointment to the Prime Minister

The best Christmas song is a question that bitterly divides us at the Spectator office. I ask if he has a favourite. ‘Although it’s been out all year I really love the Mumford & Sons album, Babel. It’s driving Samantha mad. You know what it’s like when you overplay something and it’s even beginning to annoy you, and it’s annoyed everyone else in the family.’

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The Mumfords, a somewhat unusual choice for favourite Christmas tune. (Photo: Getty)

Throughout the interview, Cameron has peppered his answers with references to recent Spectator articles both in the magazine and on Coffee House. I have to admit that it’s impressive, if a little suspicious. Does he really, as Prime Minister, have time to read what we write? ‘Yes I do, funnily enough,’ he says — then, to prove it, he opens that red box. It’s almost empty, save for the latest issue of The Spectator. ‘I haven’t read this week’s yet,’ he explains. Then he submits a Dear Mary question: ‘What do you do when a journalist has asked you too many questions in a car?’ The answer is to drop him off beside the petrol pumps, head for home and settle down to read the world’s greatest magazine.

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  • tomdaylight

    If we buy the magazine do we find out what became of the journalist stranded at Beaconsfield service station?

  • Brigantian

    The image building being undertaken by Miliband & Cameron is fascinating.
    Cameron’s approach is at least more original. The posed photo of the Milibands with 2.4 children in the Indie was nauseating. What neither seem to understand is that we do not have presidential elections in this country, no matter what the Blairs thought they were. The reality is that people are cold, hungry and unemployed. People born in Britain are being refused benefits and turned out on the street while thousands of immigrants arriving everyday are provided with housing and jobs. All Cameron can think of doing is offer more tax breaks to rich people like himself.

  • Pip

    Cameron is an EU Stooge and Traitor and will be removed from power by his own Party after UKIP win the EU Elections.

  • Normandee

    Cameron wants to govern alone says Ben Brogan this morning, absolutely right. He wants to govern without the Limp dems, and without Parliament as well. The inconvenience of having to sneak EU legislation past them, and go through the motions of leadership while he waits to be in sole charge of the British regions of the Social Democrat /Communist EU must be very boring for him, destined for greatness as he always felt he was.

  • Noa

    Did you manage a Selfie with Dave, Fraser?

  • Alexandrovich

    “Nancy [Cameron’s nine-year-old daughter] and I sometimes watch a bit of Nigella on telly. Not in court, I hasten to add.”
    Because nine-year-olds often ask awkward questions and you’d have to explain how you can be a ‘massive fan’ of someone who takes class A drugs, is rich but hooks up with someone who’ll provide more riches? Someone who wallows in the media while attempting to manipulate it?
    You’re not a ‘massive fan’ of her father as well are you?

  • Rockin Ron

    There were over one hundred world leaders today at Mandela’s funeral. It showed up Cameron for the political pygmy he is, self obsessed with having his picture taken, marginalised and lacking in respect.


  • NotYouNotSure

    “But he says he is ‘obsessed’ with Why Nations Fail, by two American academics who argue that a nation’s fate is determined not by the quality of its politicians but on the strength of its institutions — courts, schools, banks, government.”
    An understandable obsession, being the poor quality politician he is, it is only natural for him to want to believe in such a thing.

    Its not very surprising that Cameron the leftist would fall in love for a leftist feel good book to explain away all those nasty realities in the world. For those that have not read the book its actually not very complicated in its central premise: that any successful society is so because of having inclusive institutions, and any unsuccessful society is so because of being exclusive. It is only complicated because the authors try to twist every old successful society as being inclusive when in reality they were not always so inclusive.

  • dalai guevara

    “He still rejects the idea of tension between green energy and affordable
    energy. ‘I would describe shale gas as a green energy source that can
    cut energy costs,’…”

    Yes, he’s a brilliant contortionist, isn’t he? And socialising losses is ‘socialism’ only to readers of the Spectator, everyone else would call it theft.

    The only thing that is green about energy policy is saving on waste, increasing efficiencies and reducing a CARBON footprint – these are economically sensible things to do.

    Shale gas per se may therefore not be considered green, it may only turn out to be economically sensible. It could only be considered ‘green’ if proven economically sensible AND proven to reduce the carbon footprint.

    So what are we going to get? A token gesture of marginal savings delivered by shale with all the risk and hassle on taxpayers’ shoulders. The real profits will end up elsewhere as usual.

    Is that green? Sure it is, but only in Cameron’s view – everyone else would call it theft.

    • Colonel Mustard

      You didn’t mention Germany or the Germans. Well done.

  • Holly

    Blah, blah, blah,..Dalai Lama…Blah, blah, blah, before the next election?
    I’ve met him in opposition, I’ve met him government, I don’t have any plans to meet him.
    ‘But will you be open to seeing him again’, blah, blah, blah?
    ‘No’, ‘I said I don’t have any plans to meet him’.
    ‘I understand,(but being a thick lazy journo) are you open to the notion, blah, blah, blah’?
    ‘I don’t have any plans’.
    ‘I understand, but(being thicker than I was two minutes ago) the implication is, blah, blah, blah.
    Are we meant to take you as a serious journo bod, when someone you interview answers your question, yet you ask the same question over & over again?
    And WHY does it ‘imply’ anything other than, ‘I have no plans to meet the Dalai Lama?
    I don’t suppose it is the same as meeting down the local pub!
    What is wrong with you? Get a grip Fraser.
    Here’s one for you…
    “Are you spending Christmas day with your family”?
    “Are you sure”?
    “Are you sure you will not be spending it elsewhere”?
    “What if something comes up”?

    “I understand, but the implication is that you are closed to other offers for Christmas day, except you wouldn’t say that in front of your mates”
    See what I mean…A load of speccy tosh!

  • Bonkim

    Cameron is young and energetic and am sure will get in under his own steam in 2015.

  • London Calling

    Thanks for the snippets Fraser…………sounds like your interview went really well………David is a very likeable person, its a pleasure to meet him through your eyes and ears……..:)


    • crosscop

      Thanks, Mum.

  • Mike Barnes

    Why is he on the team of a cokehead?

    Is doing cocaine legal now or something?

  • A_Libertarian_Rebel

    “But he still wants to subsidise those ‘renewable technologies which otherwise wouldn’t get off the ground'”

    Has it possibly occurred to Cameron that the reason they ‘wouldn’t get off the ground’ is that they’re so both cost-expensive and energy-inefficient that, if required to fend for themselves in a competitive market, they’re completely uneconomic financially and ineffective operationally?

    And that it’s only in a state-rigged market where they’re propped up by public subsidy forcibly extracted from consumers either via tax or a levy energy bills, while their more efficient competitors are penalised for it, that they’re even semi-viable?

    Why was this point not made to him? Or would that have got uncomfortably close to home and the tricky subject of ithose wind turbines in Lincolnshire benefiting the landowner to the tune of £1,000 a day in public subsidy?

    • Agrippina

      I think you are forgetting that Mr Yeo, recently de-selected, needs the monies from these ventures. Of course we should all ignore that China, India and the other developing nations are polluting, so our ‘green crap’ makes no difference at all, but the idiotic taxpayers need to forget all that!

      Easy to spend other people’s money, isn’t it dave?

    • Dougie

      You seem to forget it was Labour’s idea to subsidise wind turbines. Osborne has now announced that these subsidies will be cut for onshore wind, including in Lincolnshire.

  • David Kay

    Drop the blue crap and vote UKIP

    • Mike Barnes

      Vote blue, get Cameron.

      It’s enough to put anybody off.

  • the viceroy’s gin

    ‘But I’m happy to tell you — and Spectator readers — privately
    that there’s a good list of things I have put in my little black book
    that I haven’t been able to do which will form the next Tory manifesto.’


    It is nearly impossible to fathom a politician so thick as to not understand that this statement destroys his political career. But with Dave, it’s clear that the unfathomable is well fathomed. And in less than 17 months time, his head is going to be mounted on a spike about 2 fathoms long.

    • dalai guevara

      Yup, a bit like that Neotelebloke outing himself as Greek. Hilarious!

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …was there some reason that incomprehensible gibberish was attached to my post, lad?

        • dalai guevara

          …just letting you in on a bit of new intelligence since you are on the grind delivering your the message, that’s all.

          You know, taking the edge off things, chillin’, maxin’ ‘n’ relaxin’ – what would you call it? The tedium of boring us sh*tless?

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …was there some reason you scabbed that incomprehensible gibberish onto my posted question, lad?

            • dalai guevara

              Is there any reason why you are boring us sh*tless with your tedium? At least rephrase it, mate. It’s giving me headache!

              • the viceroy’s gin

                …was there some reason you scabbed that useless gibberish after my posted questions, laddie?

                • dalai guevara

                  I only did it because I can.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …yes, you’re a socialist nutter and you do post worthless gibberish, no doubt .

                • dalai guevara

                  No, you are the only morally bankrupt thief around here, the real socialist, the fossil stooge.
                  The difference I outlined below.

                • Colonel Mustard

                  Come now. Your “comments” usually stretch credibility to breaking point but this one vaporises it into a myriad of small and scattered microns invisible to the eye.

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  Calm down, dear. You’re getting yourself into a state.

      • Troll hunter

        Telemachus is Nick Hadjinikos !!!! Google him !!! Used to troll here as Patricia Shaw but screwed up on twitter when he broadcast a private message publicly. I saved the screen shot.. Would you like me to publish it here?

        • dalai guevara

          I am referring to NEOtelepapadopoulos. Greek infighting? Yawn…

    • Douglas Grenfell

      Hes just like a petulent Eton freshman. Darn it, forgot that at one time he was, daddy must have forgetten to pay for the extra tuition that he obviously needed.

  • Smithersjones2013

    It is, he says, eight years and one day since he became leader of the Conservative party.

    Should we put on shrouds and mourn the anniversary of the demise of conservatism?

  • Frank

    This interview appears to have been done by Piers Morgan and this comment keep being deleted – I wonder why???

  • Frank

    Sorry, but this is the kind of interview that Piers Morgan does. I do however agree that he needs a break from politics, a very long break.

  • Noa

    “… he says he is ‘obsessed’ with Why Nations Fail…”
    He should treat it as a warning rather than a manual.

  • Hello

    “then he opens that red box. It’s almost empty, save for the latest issue of The Spectator”

    Ho ho ho. Classic Cameron.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Yes, and classic behavior by the Speccie’s Cameroonian lickspittle, as well.

  • sarahsmith232

    His response on immigration doesn’t lay out his intentions policy wise. By 2015 it will be half a decade later and only one limp, half-hearted go at bringing down the numbers. So far he’s only lightly touched the student visa route, slightly tightening it up. They’ve introduced another policy that can easily be got ’round, you need to earn £18,500 py to get a spouse in, that would be unless you go do a bit of bar work in Ireland for 3 months and then you can bring them without any restriction. So a non-policy then. So by 2015 the lightly and only slightly tinkering w/ the student visas will be the top and bottom of it. One half of a **** decade and only one pitiful, doing nothing change made. I would about as much trust him to get something done in the next parliament as I would Labour. Useless ****

  • Austin Barry

    Not a mention of UKIP.

    How odd.

    • jbasil

      Or labour, its a conspiracy!

      • Austin Barry

        The ostrich approach never works.

        Cameron is driving towards electoral disaster with a shattered windscreen. He cannot even bear to name the obstacles.

        • Hello

          And what do you think he should do? Mention them and wait for a tirade of “We hate you! We’ll never vote for you!”, interrupted only by the gentle sob of their withering souls, unconsciously bound to an obsession with their present state, and where any compromise would be a betrayal of their forgotten dispute?

          You cannot forever pander to a child that refuses to emerge from his tantrum, becoming more unreasonable with every second. Best to take as little notice as possible.

          • Smithersjones2013

            You cannot forever pander to a child that refuses to emerge from his tantrum, becoming more unreasonable with every second.

            Exactly and given the ‘tantrum’ that the Tory party has been having over Europe for the past 20 years is it any wonder that the grown-ups have grown tired of them and gone and joined a party that says what it actually believe in.

            • Hello

              The grown-ups? Is that why they keep putting their foot in it?

              • Smithersjones2013

                Oh dear you’ve been having the CCHQ fairy stories read to you before bed time again haven’t you?

                • Hello

                  Well, yes, but you just said that Ukip was run by the “grown-ups”. So why are these children in CCHQ getting the upper hand on your wise men?

                • the viceroy’s gin

                  …you mean, the children who will be run off 17 months from now?

        • Douglas Grenfell

          And theren was I thinking that he had on rose coloured sunglasses and little else on, like the emporers new clothes.

    • Smithersjones2013

      Of course. After Clarke’s ‘hissy-fit’ before the County Council elections even a dimwit like Cameron has learned that if you cannot say anything complimentary about a group of voters say nothing at all. It’s only taken him 25 years in politics to realise that!

      On such timescales that likely means it will take him another 17 years to realise that his modernisation project like his premiership has been an abject failure!

      • perdix

        Maybe Cameron was speaking the truth?

    • Colonel Mustard

      Or civil liberties. But a “more decisive and active government”. Which sounds a lot like Big Government. Which they can’t afford.

    • London Calling

      Who are UKIP?………………..

    • dalai guevara

      Ukip? Who are Ukip?
      “Are they in government, are they in the opposition?
      I have no plans to talk about them.”

  • Baron

    “A nation’s fate determined not by the quality of its politicians, but on the strength of its institutions — courts, schools, banks, government?”

    Doesn’t work with Baron for the simple reason politicians and those who staff institutions, all institutions, are recruited from the same stock. A nation gets what it breeds.

    Still, Fraser, would it not be nice if in addition to this revealing interview the Spectator were also to carry a column by Russell Taylor? It would fit well, kick your readership up when all the others are moving south.

    • Noa

      Yes, Russell Tatlor writes very well.

      “… If second-hand arguments for statism are what you’re after, why go to
      the trouble of finding someone with a PhD? Just grab a Guardian reader
      off the street, if you can find one…”


      • Baron

        Thank you, Noa, for the backing. The barbarian from the East won’t forget this in a hurry, his hordes will be there to help you if you ever get into trouble.

        • Noa

          As I often do Baron, keep the hordes to hand.

    • AnotherDave

      In the case of british courts, Mr Cameron has thrown away the british institutions, passing control to the EU.

  • Agrippina

    I note he says he is going to get rid of the non-working unable to support themselves immigrants and yet the Marble Arch mob are still with us.How many of the religion of peace, no speak english mob have been sent back to Asia as they will not find work.

    He sounds as if he had one of those stamps his foot, goes purple and turns away from you moments, he is apt to having when you pursued your Dalai Lama questioning.
    So basically he is going to continue doing nothing for us Brits, roll on 2015.

  • crosscop

    So, as I predicted, you never asked him about the Lee Rigby murder and why he lied to the nation that “nothing in Islam” justified it when everything in Islam justifies it. Will you finally confront him when he says the same thing after the next jihadist atrocity? Or will you wait until the one after that? Or the one after that? Or will you ask him about his favourite Christmas song instead?
    When is someone going to pull up our cowardly politicians about their repeated lies in defence of Islam? Nobody actually cares what damned books they recommend, Fraser.

    • Austin Barry

      For our politicians and their media fellow travellers any mention of Islam’s unhelpfully medieval approach to our way of life calls for the “Comments are Closed” curtain to drop like, well, a scimitar.

      • Daniel Maris

        Yes we well remember how Fraser posted all those “it was nothing to do with Islam” tweets and then closed the comments. But of course what we have been hearing in court this week from the (remarkably rational) protagonists does the talking for us.

    • Noa

      Mr Nelson has written previously that he is in favour of immigration, which is a view shared by Mr Cameron, who has told an excited Indian student population that all are welcome in the UK. So, violent agreement there!

      And he has already provided your with your islam placebo, didn’t you listen when he said that it was a religion of peace?

      • Daniel Maris

        He also told the UK Curry Awards that he would be making it easier for Asian catering workers to come and work in the UK. Why? Do we have no one in the UK who can make a curry?

        • Tom Tom

          Restaurants don’t make money but selling visas to “balti chefs” who then disappear into the black economy keeps many a business afloat as does the CTN Scam

    • Pip

      Well said, but I for one don’t expect the likes of Tory sycophant Fraser Nelson to ask Cameron anything too tricky or embarrassing, that just wouldn’t be cricket would it. Fraser is as bland and disingenuous as Cameron is Pro EU and Liberal minded..

    • Pip

      Nations fall when they are moronic and ignorant enough to allow the likes of Blair, Brown, Cameron and Clegg to Govern them

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