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PMQs: Relations between Cameron and Bercow break down

6 November 2013

PMQs today was a typically bad tempered affair. The Tories have responded to David Cameron’s mauling two weeks ago, by upping the aggression in Cameron’s answers and the noise levels.

Today, the Tories wanted to talk about Unite. At every opportunity, Cameron sought to bring Unite the union, who donate millions to Labour, into his answers. He floated the prospect of new laws to combat the aggressive and unpleasant ‘leverage’ tactics that Unite had used at Grangemouth. He likened Ed Miliband to the mayor of a Sicilian town who had been put in by the mafia and was afraid they would take him out if he took them on.


Miliband led on the NHS. But the exchanges were far from enlightening. They, essentially, consisted of Miliband saying that the ‘NHS isn’t safe’ in Cameron’s hands and Cameron pointing to the NHS problems in Labour-run Wales.

But, perhaps, the most significant aspect of PMQs today was that relations between Cameron and Bercow have pretty much broken down. Bercow again interrupted Cameron mid-stream and upbraided him for not answering a question. But when Bercow moved to cut Cameron off again, Cameron responded that he was answering the question and ploughed on. Straight after PMQs, the Tory deputy chief whip tweeted:

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  • redteddy

    Oh, my dear. Don’t be of independent thought, don’t try to be neutral, dark skinned, or fair minded, if you do the Tory bigots, who live on a different planet than you and I, will have you hung drawn, and quartered. Stroud, is your perfect, of a total undemocratic bigot This man is a would be supporter of fascism.

  • Peter Stroud

    We have replaced as Speaker, an incoherent, ex Labour MP: who was biased towards his old Party with an MP who was elected as a Tory. But who, since his elevation to the Chair, has demonstrated even greater left wing bias, appalling manners and a talent for self publicity. He is a disgrace and needs to be put in his place. He is only marginally less odious than his awful spouse.

  • redteddy

    Flashman Cameron lost his head again. He was red in the face accusing UNITE of using bully boy tactics. Not a word, of course, about the real bullies. the Utility bosses, the money lenders, and the bankers. Cameron always sticks up for the rich and powerful. Well, at heart, Cameron is just the same thug, who used to smash pubs and restaurants up in Oxford with his mate Boris Johnson.

    • Nicholas chuzzlewit

      Blah, blah, blah, blah, class war, blah, blah, wicked Tories. Blah, blah, blah, the bankers, the bonuses, the bankers, blah, blah. Just a lot of leftist blather and not a single original thought.

      • redteddy

        The only class war merchants are you brain dead Tories. This coalition takes from the poor, to give to the rich corrupt bankers Talk about a bigot, Chuzzletwat is one of them alright..

        • Colonel Mustard

          Silly. The Coalition has raised the tax threshold to help the lowest paid. It just doesn’t have dependent and protected “clients” like you lot – who are mostly foreigners, anti-socials and various skivers, employed and unemployed.

          Your song is tired and out of date. You should get another or FO to North Korea.

        • Nicholas chuzzlewit

          How very Labour Party of you. The moment somebody disagrees with you the accusations of bigotry start flying around accompanied by humourless personal insults. are you Gordon Brown by any chance. No doubt accusations of nazism will be next on the list following the predictable modus operandi of a Labour Troll.

          • Sanctimony

            Gordon Brown was fond of bigots… wasn’t he… pots & kettles etc…

    • Sanctimony

      Don’t let’s forget Gideon Osbourne’s role in the front bench, Bullingdon hooliganism !

  • Laurie Escreet

    So Bercow thinks the noise at PMQs is degrading.
    He should have a word with his low level wife

    • redteddy

      So Bercow has to allow, flashman Cameron, to insult everyone and be allowed lie though his head, before your bigotry would be satisfied. Just how undemocratic can you get.

  • George Laird

    Dear All

    If we all remember for a brief moment the appointment of John Bercow was done on the basis of an unfortunate FU action by the Labour Party.

    That being said matters haven’t been helped by certain Tory backbenchers.

    As General Mike Jackson famously said, ‘we are where we are’.

    I would therefore suggest in the interests of the House that there should be a clear the air meeting with Cameron and Bercow.

    We have been spoiled in the past by Betty Boothroyd, what a great pity she is gone, however that’s life, Michael Martin’s tenure was a disaster, haven’t we learned from that yet?

    One thing is essential is that the dignity of the Office and the House must be maintained by everyone in the Chamber and if possible outside it as well.

    There is no point in having a running sore like this; it is unproductive and very silly.

    And we should remember that the current situation is the fault of everyone in the House of Commons who have let this drift.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  • StateWeShouldBeIn

    Bercow must go…along with the Labour MPs that showed their utter contempt for Parliament by voting for him.

    In the future we shall look back at this period and think, “he wasn’t, was he? Really?”, about the Bercow time in the chair, much the same as we already do about Gordon Brown’s premiership.

    • HookesLaw

      Vote to remove Bercow from the Chair. Vote to remove Labour MPs.
      And what is the best way to do that…?

      • StateWeShouldBeIn

        Aye, fair point. A quick perusal of Erskine May suggests we are stuck with Bercow until he dies, retires, or is voted out by the good folk of Buckingham…

    • redteddy

      Well most Tories behave like Hitler’s storm troopers If they cannot get their way they grow red in the face like the nasty storm trooper above.

      • Nicholas chuzzlewit

        So you are suggesting that all conservative voters believe in genocide, concentration camps etc etc. a scandalous and pathetic suggestion. Grow up and push your rubbish on Labour list etc.

        • redteddy

          Chuzzletwat. No, you Tories just prefer to bump the pensioners off by protecting the rich tyrants who run the utilities. Sorry Chuzzletwat, you have been brain dead for years.

          • Nicholas chuzzlewit

            So every Conservative voter is a potential murderer of pensioners now? How very discerning of you. I think you should pack up your single figure IQ and join Labour List.

  • dalai guevara

    Ah yes, the speaker’s head in return for a dismal performance in the last couple of weeks? It was a car crash waiting to happen, perhaps it is now a good time to fix the car.

    • DWWolds

      Presumably you mean Milliminor’s.

  • realfish

    For weeks now, Bercow has interrupted the PM just as he is about to get to the critical part of his response.

    The timing of Bercow’s interruptions is impeccable…and in no way accidental.

  • Smithersjones2013

    The very mention of Bercow’s name is an excremental smear on the Speaker’s chair. That hideous little man is the exemplar of everything that is wrong with Westminster.

    He is an embarrassment to the country.

    • telemachus

      Relations between Cameron and Bercow break down

      That hideous little man is the exemplar of everything that is wrong with Westminster.
      Agree Camereon was disrespectful

      • neotelemachus

        Your attempt at wit was clumsy and not funny Idiot #1. Not at all what we would expect from a post-grad from Oxford – unless perhaps you were telling porkies?

      • Colonel Mustard

        Talking of hideous little men . . .

        “. . . as neglected patients were forced to drink from vases, Burnham’s department spent £189,637 on bottled water when in government.”


        “Andy cares about health with a passion
        He is the only politician with a joined up vision for the future”

        Presumably his “joined up vision for the future” will put an equal priority towards ensuring the elderly and inform patients of the NHS get as much bottled water as his department?

        In truth he should be gone by now, resigned or sacked in absolute disgrace. But we all know Labour never apologise, take responsibility or resign.It is always someone else’s fault.

    • ButcombeMan

      The very best way to deal with Bercow would be for Nigel Farage to stand against him in the next election and call for volunteers to trot along and help, from any party. .

      • fathomwest

        I think pictures of ‘that woman’ climbing out of the taxi, would assist in reminding people that a vote for the little man is also a vote for her continuing to enjoy life in the Palace of Westminster.

        • Mike

          Yep, you can’t make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and certainly not with a half cut middle aged laddette.

        • Sanctimony

          Terrible legs… but eyes wide open !

      • Sanctimony

        Didn’t Farage stand against Bercow at the last election ?

        If I’m correct, then all those cretinous Buckinghamshire Tory voters returned that ghastly little scumbag, Bercow with a decent majority.

        And people really ponder how the Third Reich came to power…

  • HookesLaw

    The Speakers job at PMQs is to let the two leaders say what they want and to keep the rest quiet. if Miliband wants to say the PM has dodged a question then he can and the PM should be able to say that its a bogus question.

    Bercow is biased because if he is so interested in the PMs answers then he should be shutting up the labour barrackers. This point alone exposes his humbug.

  • kyalami

    I’ve been watching PMQs for >15 years and it’s seldom indeed that the PM answers an opposition question. This is shameful, but also standard practice. Consequently I can’t see what the Speaker’s problem was.

    • itdoesntaddup

      Why do you bother?

  • rugby god

    can we set a petition to have the dwarf removed from his high chair/office?

    • David Simpson

      no, he is doing a good job

      • Smithersjones2013

        Are you Silly Bercow cross dressing to defend her unworthy verminous hubby?

        • redteddy

          The only good Tory is a politically dead one. Why bother anyway Chuzzletwat is brain dead anyway. As for Vermin, like Nye Bevan said, the Tories are lower than vermin.

      • Nicholas chuzzlewit

        The idea is that he is an impartial ombudsman not a leftist cheerleader.

    • Paddy

      I was thinking exactly the same thing!

    • In2minds

      Perhaps the truth is relations between the HoC and the public have broken down. Ideally we should have an elected PM.

      • JamesdelaMare

        In2minds – Perhaps this is the most perceptive and true comment on here. Something everybody should recognise. Bercow has his faults. He’s come up from modest beginnings where there would have been limitations in his family background circumstances, unlike that of Cameron and others.

        The relations between the public and HoC are as false now as they’ve ever been in history. The HoC is no longer in a fit state to govern this country due to the overwhelming influences of a) the (mainly two) parties’ desperation to stay in office and b) the personal career aspirations of MPs in parliamentary life. An elected PM would be impossible, but one reform that would certainly be possible is to split law-making and constituency duties. Another excellent reform would be to hypothecate tax, or raise tax only for public expenditure for essentials agreed by the public outside parliament. That could bring down government spending from 50% GDP to under 20%.

    • Nicholas chuzzlewit

      Where do I sign?

      • redteddy

        You mean where do I place my cross. Mr. Chuzzletwat you get worse.

        • Nicholas chuzzlewit

          Hilarious coming from a semi-literate nanderthal like yourself.

          • redteddy

            I see you have corrected your original spelling of Neanderthal. I think you spelt it neondorthall. When you vote in the next General election you will probably vote Labour by mistaking the spelling of Conservative.

  • rugby god

    tbh, that eejit midget is one of the main reasons people write in about PMQ’s. he is an absolute aberration.

    • David Simpson

      no he is not

      • HookesLaw

        ‘fraid he is

      • Smithersjones2013

        The only thing worse than the poisonous dwarf is that moronic egotistical wife of his. They really are a disgraceful couple.

        • dalai guevara

          worse than that alcoholic in charge before him?

          • neotelemachus

            Even on this I would have to disagree with you Idiot #3. As bad as Gorbals Mick was, at least he wasn’t quite as pompous as the slimy little sh*t Bercow.

            • HookesLaw

              Well yes, no one woukd ever call Mick pompous

      • Paddy

        Yes he is.

      • Russell

        Wrong again.

      • Nicholas chuzzlewit

        What a typical example of leftist dissembling.

  • Andy

    Bercow is a poison dwarf and is not fit, nor ever has been fit, to be Speaker. He only became so because of Labour Party MPs.

    • David Simpson

      a lot of tories voted for him also

      • HookesLaw

        George Young got 271 votes. There were 210 tory MPs in the house at the time.
        Go figure… and then come back with a sensible comment.

        • 2trueblue

          His constituents should not have voted for him in 2010, as it was obvious then that he was Liebores man. He is a biased, destructive and perfectly odious, and not fit for the office he holds.

      • Smithersjones2013

        That first degree expenses trougher (he claimed more personal expenses than just about any other Tory MP) and furtively scrambled to pay capital gains when his house dealings were exposed should never have been allowed to stand. The fact that he did was down almost solely to Gordon Brown’s malevolence.

        Its like making an armed robber, Bank Manager.

      • Nicholas chuzzlewit

        No they did not.

        • redteddy

          Chuzzletwat. Why don’t you tell the truth bigot. Bercow was supported by the Tories as well as Labour. I watched it on the Parliament Channel. You are just a lying bag of smelly wind.

          • Nicholas chuzzlewit

            More suggestions of bigotry on no evidence whatsoever followed by a laughable personal insult and wrapped up in the sanctimonious carapace of self-righteousness that we have come to expect from a Labour Party Troll.

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