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Nadine Dorries: I want to be a joint Tory/Ukip candidate

15 May 2013

Nadine Dorries has given an interview to The Spectator this week in which she reveals that she will be holding talks with her constituency association about a joint Tory/Ukip endorsement for the 2015 election. She tells the magazine ‘I will be having that kind of conversation with my association’, and adds:

‘There are members in my association who approached me recently who are confused. They have always been Conservative and will never change their allegiance but feel very much as though they have a huge amount of empathy with Ukip. I feel it would be a travesty if Ukip came in and took the seats off our councillors or indeed me when actually their policies and their beliefs are very much Ukip. Because what we have done, we have thrown clothes off and they have picked them up and put them on.’

She also draws parallels between the state of the Conservative party now and its fortunes in 1997:

‘[Voters] hated us because the Labour party promise, the vision, the song “Things Can Only Get Better” had a purchase on people’s imagination, and in their hearts that I see being replicated by Ukip today.’

Her fear is that the disastrous consequence of Ukip’s rise will be a Labour government. The party needs a strategy to prevent that.


If her association agrees, and Ukip also agrees to endorse her, she could be the first Conservative MP to bear two badges on the ballot paper, and her actions will surely embolden other MPs who believe the arrangement could save their skins. She says a dozen other Conservatives have told her they agree with her idea. It would be very difficult to discipline an MP who has already arguably suffered unfair treatment which angered many backbenchers. The chances are that, as with many other policies, David Cameron will have to catch up with his party on this.

Dorries is probably the most interesting and warm politician I’ve ever interviewed. She gets a hard time in the media, but in person she’s normal and friendly and funny. Many Tory MPs have a great deal of time and affection for her. I attended a party held in her honour by David Davis on Monday night, which was packed with Conservative colleagues, all of whom were enormously relieved that she was back. She told me about her lack of a ‘filter’ as a politician, and perhaps it would be better if there were more parliamentarians like her, who speak their mind and come across as normal, rather than turning on that professional filter. After all, it’s this raw quality that Nigel Farage manages to trade on – albeit in a pint-wielding, pin-striped way. But for the Tory leadership to ignore her advice about the allure of Ukip to a normal Tory-minded voter would be foolish indeed: now that the prodigal daughter is back, she should be listened to.

You can now read the full interview here.

UPDATE: Nadine’s piece has caused quite a stir and she’s been asked about it by the BBC. Here’s her response:

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  • don logan

    Nadine Dorries: I’ve seen an outside chance of saving my job.

  • slyblade

    All she has to do is leave the conservative party, ask to join UKIP (if we will have her that is) and fight on a UKIP ticket.

    All i can see here is someone looking after her own interest first.And for that reason i hope UKIP will not have her. We want people of conviction, not of self interest.

    My guess is UKIP will not have her as she comes with too much baggage, and we will find a suitable candidate of our own to fight the Tories in the next election.

    • Sarkastracus

      If the Kippers were so strong, Dorries could resign her seat now and fight on such a platform to ‘test the waters’. She should walk it…yes?

  • sunnydayrider

    I note TB is on the increase again. Seems Mad Cow Disease is as well.

  • Terry Field

    Nadine looks a bit below par, don’t you think?

  • john

    As a UKIP member, no way I’ll support a Lib/Lab/Con-UKIP candidates. UKIP should stand on principle, not on expediency. Many UKIP supporters will be disillusioned if UKIP leadership will join in partnership with any Lib/Lab/Con troika candidates. UKIP can support its home grown candidates rather than rely on a half-baked Lib/Lab/Con-UKIP candidate. Hope UKIP leaders will not allow themselves be co-opted with LibLabCon troika.

  • global city

    has any British Prime Minister inspired a protest movement to song?

    I don’t think so. Our politicians should stop underestimating the man Farage.

  • Jim_Watford

    Even if her local party agree it’s CCHQ who hold the power and I doubt they’ll put up with it, I can see her ending up as a UKIP only candidate.

  • Brian Williams

    Reading through the comments, I’m even more convinced of the David Steel hubris. Are you all youngsters here? 1981 – the liberals had polled better than they had since 1929, they had 400 councillors throughout Britain. Here’s his speech:

    It ends: “I have the good fortune to be the first Liberal
    Leader for over half a century who is able to say to you at the end of
    our annual Assembly: go back to your constituencies and prepare for
    government.” … and they got NOWHERE at the general election.

    I’m detecting just this sort of hubris in the comments below.

    Just because UKIP are popular now and have one council elections, don’t get big headed, or we will come a cropper.

    Any and all means should be used to get the UKIP label sitting in Westminster, even if it is on a shared ticket. We MUST get out of the EU!”

    • the viceroy’s gin

      They’re accomplishing portions of that task right now, absent any UKIP MP’s.

    • Sarkastracus

      Your comment was a good reminder (hence my tick in the vote up section) how the SDP/Liberals in 1981 thought they were ready for government. Well it took them nearly 30 years to join a coalition one so it was a ‘long preparation’. From history, it has taken parties at least 20 years to displace a rival (Labour from 1922-1945 when they formed their first majority government) . Perhaps in these accelerated times, the Kippers will take less time but I don’t see them going from zero MPS to forming a government until at least 2025.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …and they’d likely not do it even then, assuming other parties respond to their pressure, as is beginning to occur now.

        Political parties die when they are no longer relevant. They remain relevant by responding to contemporary political pressures. If they don’t, they’re replaced, and they die. It’s their choice.

        If other political parties respond to UKIP’s pressure, they can dissipate them as a threat to their position. If they don’t respond, UKIP will wax and grow. It’s quite simple, really.

        • Sarkastracus

          The Liberal party was expected to die in the 1950s but didn’t, so as long as there is a constituency for their message – a party can last a long time and circumstances change.

          If the UK does vote to leave the EU, then UKIP would either merge fully with the Conservatives or carry on a separate party. By then I expect it will be in fact if not name an English Nationalist party.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            Yes, but a “constituency” isn’t what you were speaking of. You were speaking of “forming a government”.

            UKIP’s goals are wrapped around the EU, obviously. They aren’t going to be assuaged until those goals are addressed, which they are starting to be now, even absent any seated MP’s.

            Remember, politics is about policy. If the policy is in order, UKIP would disappear, I suspect, one way or another. No need for it, at that point.

    • Dog

      UKIP might not even win any seats in Westminster at all in 2015, but we definitely WILL take enough votes to prevent the tories remaining in power. That is the price that they will pay for their deception and betrayal of their OWN supporters and this country.

      Knowing we collectively hold this power, and now, after the stunning election results recently, we know that the tory MPs know it too and that is why they have been panicked into knee-jerking into deceptive error with this vapid and empty bill for a referendum scam.

      We have them by the balls, and we are going after labour too.

      The FPTP electoral system we have will prevent a lot of UKIP seats until UKIP gets about 35 – 40% in the polls.

      I think that UKIP could win a few seats on 27% national share. UKIP have stolen millions of tory voters, now they MUST target labour too.

      UKIP are the anti-establishment party, not left, not right, just British and as such, deals with establishment parties MUST be rejected.

      They CANNOT credibly try recruiting labour voters if they do deals with tory MPs.

  • Brian Williams

    To fellow UKIP supporters, I would say that now is not the time to play the David Steel Hubris (“return to your constituencies and prepare for government”).

    Any coupon arrangement would need to agree which policies were commonly
    agreed as “red lines” that a succesfull candidate would vote for –
    against the whips if necessary.

    There is nothing wrong with collaborating with the remaining right wing of that party, where a given candidate would vote for a referendum anyway.

    The point is that UKIP has taken on the mantle of the right of the Conservative Party, and the Europhile Conservatives belong with the Lib Dems.

    Look at the history. This has all happened before. The left wing of the Tory party split off and joined the Whigs to form the Liberals.

    The right wing of the Labour party split off as the SDP, and, finding that it could not pick up any seats in parliament, joined with the Liberals to form the Lib Dems.

    If UKIP go it alone into the next election, saying “government or bust”, it will likely bust, unless it can somehow get to 30% in the polls, and will wind up like the SDP did – popular but with no seats.

    Why waste 5 years learning a hard lesson? Surely the important thing is to get UKIP policies into parliament.

    Once there is an arrangement with Nadine Dorries, others will follow, Simple justice will mean that there will be UKIP candidates standing on a joint ticket too.

    Remember that there are over 30 Labour MPs who also stand as Co-Operative party candidates, so this is quite commonplace.

    The important thing is that in all constituencies there should be a choice between a referendum candidate and an anti-referendum candidate. If two referendum candidates stand against one anti-referendum candidate, then the chances are that the wrong result will occur.

    • Jim_Watford

      There’s a balance to be struck here, one of our greatest strengths is not being the Tories, Labour or Lib Dems, we can’t be seen to be getting too close to any of them, especially Daves toxic Tories.

      • Sarkastracus

        This is UKIP’s fracture point. If it allows itself to be painted as just a ‘Real Tory Party’ – then it won’t keep those people who in the past had plenty of opportunity to vote Conservative but never did. To balance Farage’s love of the late Baroness T, UKIP would need to recruit a veteran Labour party icon from the past. Let the shade of Michael Foot step forward….

        • Dog

          UKIP are doing very well in safe labour areas in the North. So long as any labour icons publicly renounce the labour party, and support the UKIP manifesto then I would welcome them into UKIP. As I would the icons of any other party. They would have to be subject to UKIP party discipline and be prepared to be deselected if they try to be “bigger” than the party, (as Nadine probably would try to be).

          UKIP should NOT do any deals with the labour or tory or liberal democrats to share a seat with those parties.

          • Sarkastracus

            The EU aside, I see little to no possibility of a Labour leader joining UKIP and paying homage to Margaret Thatcher. UKIP will get a percentage of the working class vote, as much the Tories have always done so. Perhaps UKIP will get more than the Tories but it is not going to win them those safe Labour seats.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      Surely the important thing is to get UKIP policies into parliament


      Their policies are already into parliament, even absent any seated MP’s. Whatever you see occurring right now is occurring because of UKIP.

      Now, UKIP needs to force every candidate to adopt their positions re the EU. Do that, and their primary mission is fulfilled, with or without seated MP’s.

      And the only way to force candidates to adopt their positions is to stand against them.

      • Sarkastracus

        How does a party with 15% support (to take a snapshot) ‘force’ the other parties to adopt its political position? Since UKIP claim to be a party with a full slate of policies, that doesn’t make sense.

        • the viceroy’s gin

          As I say, it’s already happening, as we can all clearly see. It’s not a question of “if”.

  • George Laird

    Dear All

    I like a laugh, but Ms. Dorries has pushed the comedy limit to breaking.

    Perhaps getting de-selected might help her, I don’t know, but hopefully someone will try.

    It is a silly idea, you can’t have two masters.

    Having just got the whip back, you think she would go for a low profile and shut up.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • Dog

      George, what is your opinion on the fact that Gordon Brown stood as a labour AND cooperative party candidate in 2010?

  • B Ryan

    Of course, if the Conservatives had just backed AV they might not be in such a mess with UKIP. Ironic really.

    • Dog

      AV was the worst possible version of PR and even as a UKIP supporter, I disagreed with the party on AV and I am glad the country rejected it.

      There would be many places that UKIP could come first or second in the first round, and then on recounts lose out to liblabcon candidates because their voters would not vote UKIP at all.

      Under AV, currently I would vote UKIP as a first choice and not have any other second choice.

      Liblabcon voters would have three choices and vote liblabcon in one order or another. UKIP would end up coming fourth even if they won the first round of voting.

  • Ex Tory voter, England

    Wow, what an insult to her constituents. UKIP isnt a department of the Conservative party. She is going to have to choose which party to represent and I think her chances of being selected by the Tories just got smaller.

    • dalai guevara

      No, her chances have of course just hugely increased.

      She must have been top on the list of being deselected, her approach of ‘exploring the possibility of a joint UKIP/Tory candidacy closer to the time’ has magically increased the probability of her surviving the Tory slaughter that will be the 2015 elections.

  • arnoldo87

    If Nadine gets her way, she really wouldn’t need to bear “two badges” on the ballot paper. “Conservative and UKIP candidate” is a bit clumsy, so why not just use “Nasty Party candidate”

    • Nicholas chuzzlewit

      Ok but all Labour candidates would then have to stand for the “Dishonest, Sanctimonious and Scrounging Party” so I doubt your idea will catch on.

    • Dog

      It was labour who impoverished the poor by their cruel Climate Change Act forcing energy bills through the roof, and allowing (even encouraging) energy companies to create confusopoly cartels to rip off the poor even more, and then labour also DOUBLED the income tax of the poorest workers.

      They also murdered a million brown skinned people in Iraq and lied about why it was necessary.

      I think that is nasty.

      By the way, UKIP opposed ALL of those measures. The tories did not.

  • Jonathon Robert Cowley

    I’m sure she is warm and friendly and all that guff. She’s still a vacuous moron though.

  • Nicholas Hallam

    Interesting. Looking at the UKIP results in the County Council elections I fancy Douglas Carswell might be in for a fight in Clacton – which would be a shame.

    • warmingmyth

      “Douglas Carswell might be in for a fight in Clacton – which would be a shame”
      Then he should stop messing around and join UKIP which is probably inevitable once the Conservatives start to really break up.
      Having said that I can understand all the problems with constituency parties etc..

    • Dog

      After he has so recently given in to the referendum scam? No it would not be a shame. He is just as shifty as the rest of those untrustworthy tories.

      How on earth can he support a strategy of a fake, powerless bill?

      So they publish and maybe even pass into law a bill which:

      A) has NO compulsion whatsoever to implement the result of a referendum.

      B) says nothing about what percentage would be required for victory

      C) delays the referendum until the tories have been booted out of power.

      How on earth is that giving us the referendum we all want? Carslwell is trying to fraudulently pass this off as some sort of victory for Eurosceptics.

      It is empty, deceitful and and deeply shameful. He will deserve to lose his seat of the back of this con!

      IF the tories want to win the next election, and IF they are serious about holding a referendum, (they very clearly are NOT), then they will call the lib-dems bluff and hold the referendum whilst we still have a conservative led government with the actual power to hold one.

      After all, it will only be the tories forcing the lib-dems to accept one of their own Liberal Democrat manifesto promises. If the Lib-Dems oppose, or try to bring down the government for doing what 80%+ of the people are demanding, then they have to explain to the two or three voters that they have left, why they hate the British Electorate so much.

      There will be enough Union Sponsored labour MPs voting for a referendum, (and more and more of those want us to withdraw from the Austerity Wracked failure of the EU, (as they see it)), to overturn Liberal Democrat opposition.

      There is NO reason to delay the referendum, NONE, other than deception.

      If I have not held the referendum ballot in my hand by the time I am in the polling booth at the next general election, then I WILL vote UKIP.

      Millions of other UKIP voters feel exactly the same way.

      So the tory MPs have to answer the following question.


  • Guy Chapman

    Frankly all this says is that Dorries is scared the loon vote is vital to retaining her seat.

  • MarinerAncien

    Nadine, a broken joint I’m afraid.

  • bruce

    I’m afraid this looks like a lazy uncritical interview.

    Nobody in Mid Beds holds the views Dorries describes.

    Its not possible to be a joint candidate as Anthony wells reports unless both parties register centrally to that effect.

    No reference to the ongoing IPSA expenses investigation into Dorries or her failure to declare her I’m a celeb income which she promised many times to do in interviews on her return from Oz.

    Interviews don’t work unless politicians are asked hard and challenging questions.

    • Someguy

      Born and bred in Mid Beds, and I hold the views Dorries describes, so will you retract your statement?

      Working out some sort of a pact before the next election is an almost certainty; we still haven’t felt the post-Euro election squirm where UKIP will take over 30% of the vote.

      • Tim Durden

        Why don’t you join UKIP then? What sort of allegiance do you feel you owe to the Conservatives and to Cameron? He doesn’t care for you or people who share your views but Farage does.

      • bruce

        I meant within Mid Beds Conservative Association (which is referred to in the article) perhaps I should have been clearer. I can guarantee you nobody wants this.Indeed Dorries’ candidate for President of the Association was recently defeated. Her reselection will be a matter for active debate.

        As for a pact it is far from a certainty. Dorries doesn’t seem to understand that in order to have a joint candidate (and logos) both parties have to register this centrally from party HQs.

        There is absolutely no way that will happen.This is more research Hardman should have done before undertaking this interview. It is basic stuff.

        • Someguy

          I said “some sort of pact”, I didn’t say “joint candidates”.

          And why is Tim Durden daring me to join UKIP and calling me out on supporting the Tories? I didn’t even state my party preference. How bizarre.

          • Tim Durden

            I thought you meant you meant you were a Conservative voter when you said you hold the views that Dorries describes. Apologies for the confusion.

    • Dave Cross

      “her failure to declare her I’m a celeb income”

      She has set up a company to deal with her media appearances. The money will have been paid there. Therefore she has not *personally* received the money and there is no requirement to declare it.

      Of course, at some point the money will need to come out of the company’s bank account and into Dorries’. But at the point it will just be a sum of money lumped in with all of her other income for media work.

      This is becoming a popular way for MPs to disguise the exact amounts that they are earning.

      (I’m not saying for one second that I condone this behaviour – I’m just explaining what has happened.)

  • Charles Hedges

    Dear Nadine,
    Voters hated you because you were the nasty party. Sadly you have not changed.

  • Tim Durden

    I’m sorry but as a UKIP member i don’t want to do deals with any other political party. I think it sends out completely the wrong message because UKIP are meant to be the anti-establishment party fighting against the main three parties who have screwed us over for so long. If Nadine and people within her constituency share the same beliefs as UKIP then they should make the switch and join UKIP. There is no point being loyal to Cameron because he has been anything but loyal to his core vote that has supported the Conservative party for a very long time.

    And what kind of message does this send to the large number of former Labour voters who are now voting UKIP. They hate the tories too and if we are seen to be doing deals with the tories I think a lot of this vote will disappear.

    Keep calm and carry on the same path Farage there is no need to be doing deals with anyone.

    • Mr Creosote

      Agreed – UKIP are a broad church and will take talent wherever they come from. Nadine is plain-speaking and brave enough to go on that witless programme in the jungle, in order to broaden her appeal and audience – this is something your archetypal career politician would never do.

      • fubarroso

        Except Gorgeous George of course who’s appearance on Big Brother will live in infamy.

    • Russell

      Quite right, if she wants the security of getting UKIP votes, she should cross the floor and become UKIP’s first MP.

      • Noa

        As a UKIP supporter, considering her to be duplicitous, self-serving and untrustworthy, I would not vote for her.

      • Renie Anjeh

        2nd MP, you mean.

      • The_Missing_Think


        But then again… the Leftist hooked up in the Tory party, will go very, very ballistic, and hurl themselves from the pram into the LibLab safety nets.

        Which would go nicely with popcorn.

      • Dog

        I think UKIP would be stupid to accept her.

        • Russell

          But imagine the impact of having a UKIP MP sitting in parliament. It might encourage a significant number of Conservative and Labour MP’s sitting in marginal constituencies who are sceptical of UK membership of the EU to take the short walk of one swordslength.

          If sufficient MP’s did cross the floor to UKIP, they would have more influence on the coalition government than the LibDems do presently.

          • Dog

            They would have to very publicly reject the tories, their manifesto, the coalition agreement and publicly declare their loyalty to UKIP and to party discipline. They cannot expect to come in and take over the party. I would also like to see defections from labour too.

            As for Nadine especially, I would fear that she would want to have too much say and try to be a bigger “personality” than UKIP need at the moment. She might want to be bigger than the party. We had enough of that sort of vanity under Kilroy Silk may years ago.

            Farage on the other hand works very very hard FOR the party and is a massive personality IN the party, but he does not pretend to be bigger than the party. He is not standing in By Elections for example.

            UKIP would have a lot more credibility by having their OWN elected MPs after 2015, than stealing a badly maligned one of someone else’s.

            • Russell

              I agree with most of what you say. I do feel there are a number of Conservative MP’s who would benefit the UKIP party if they crossed the floor, and actually many UKIP proposals in their manifesto are not a million miles away from Tory thinking (not coalition thinking). I certainly look forward to the first UKIP elected MP, hopefully within the next year at a by-election. .

      • Alan

        Time to Unite as Britons Blockade Parliament get rid of LibLabCon once and for all,at least 100-000 to 1 Million strong will throw these Charlatans out of Power and Expel the unwanted EU/ECHR from our shores for good,at least UKIP has Nigel Farage who cares deeply for Britain unlike the three stoodges Cameron,Clegg and Red Ed who all are thunderbirds Puppets,

    • Jonathon Robert Cowley

      UKIP are a break-away Tory faction headed by a City trader who wants to privatise everything. What part of that is anti-establishment? They’re as mainstream as you can get.

      • Tim Durden

        Myself and a vast proportion of the public dont see UKIP that way though. We are attracting support from all three parties not just the Conservatives and we have a leader who tackles the issues the people of this country care about most and the other three parties are too scared to touch.

        • @Rakehell_Obi

          You mean tackling the issues the Australian-American Rupert Murdoch, or the Daily Hate Mail wants British people to be concerned about.
          Safely away from not being concerned about the NHS being privatised, Just blame immigrants, the poor and disabled.

          • Tim Durden

            Well the issues that the left leaning papers read by people at the BBC and people in Government like to believe in are the very issues that have got this country into the mess that we are in.

            Ludicrous green subsidies that push energy prices through the roof meaning pensioners have to choose between eating and freezing.

            Continuing mass immigration whilst our own young people cannot get jobs.

            Supporting and propping up the undemocratic and wasteful EU that costs £53 million a day

            Soft on law and order meaning criminals are let out early and are free to reoffend.

            Soft, poorly disciplined schools that leave our next generation with no prospects whatsoever whilst politicians send their kids to private schools.

            A welfare state that under Labour meant it made more sense to live on benefits than to work on minimum wage.

            A tax system that is preventing growth.

            UKIP have answers to all of these problems and are connecting with the average man and woman on the street. Go into a pub or restaurant and these are the issues people are worried about. Not gay marriage or where the next wind turbine is going to be built.

            • Gaudi

              Well Geoffrey Drake (former UKIP candidate in Kent) certainly has an answer on disabled people with genetic conditions. He advocated forcing pregnant women to abort if carrying child with spina bifida or downs syndrome as they cost too much money. Is that the sort of answer you support? Can just imagine the images of heavily pregnant women dragged into abortion clinics. As long as UKIP attracts such people, and once uncovered doesn’t uniformly disown them, you will be seen as dangerous and thoughtless by a large section of society.

              • hereward

                Geoffrey Drake .. Ha ,Ha. you can not even get his name right .
                I suppose you approve of the present LiblabCon policy where they abort 200K healthy babies a year in Britain . A big improvement ,what ?

                • Gaudi

                  Clark or Drake, he still holds those repulsive views. The difference of course is that those 200k abortions were by choice of the pregnant woman, not compulsory by any Govt. Really just be disgusted my Mr Clark’s views like everyone else with a working brain rather than making silly points in an attempt to defend him. I state again, think how such a policy would pan out, think of the images and then tell me you or UKIP still support his personal manifesto?

                • hereward

                  merely pointing out that 200k abortions are considered to be a “good thing” and have the approval of the sensible Parties IE the LibLabCon (EU) alliance . it is so bracing to live in a country where the women want their children murdered .

              • Dog

                Even you noticed that he is a FORMER candidate of UKIP. Meaning that UKIP are NOT in favour of those disgusting policies, as promoted in the last century by the Fabian Society (creators of the labour party).

                A party cannot be held responsible for every nutter which votes for or tries to stand for them. Labour and the tories have both had their share of insane, cruel and evil people stand for them in elections at local level

                • Georgina Whelan

                  Yeah, well said Dog. At least UKIP get rid of undesirable candidates, unlike Labour (who have 2 ex BNP members standing as councillors)!

          • Dog


            IF you are concerned about NHS privatisation, then you should vote for the only party which is opposed to the EU directive which compels the UK Government to implement privatisation of the Health Service, to meet EU competition guidelines. This EU directive is also the reason that the Royal Mail is being privatised too.

            It is so any corporation in the EU can buy companies providing our services.

            When those evil tories privatised our utilities, they ensured that ONLY British companies could buy and run them for the benefit of British consumers, and prices fell quickly. LABOUR, acting under EU directives, changed that.

            LABOUR changed the law to allow foreign companies to buy up our utilities and rip us off, which then allowed our energy suppliers to be bought up by French state subsidised energy corporations. These French corporations are prevented in French law from increasing costs to their French consumers by more than 5% per year, but are happy to fleece their British customers in order to subsidise their French customers.

            IF you do not want the NHS privatised, then you should vote UKIP too.

      • Dog

        You mean he wants capitalism and free markets?

        What part of the Establishment allows that? We are not a capitalist country. If we were, we would have allowed the banks to fail in 2007/8. We are a corporatist country now. Privatising profits amongst well-connected cronies, socialising losses and dumping the bill on the tax-payer. Failure is heavily rewarded. There is no room for fair competition or meritocracy. THAT is the corrupt establishment that Farage opposes.

        We want a meritocracy that gives real opportunity for all to achieve whatever they can achieve by merit. Bonuses related to actual performance, NO rewards for failure. How does that even remotely resemble the mainstream?

    • Georgina Whelan

      Nadine and others wont make the switch to UKIP though as it would mean they give up their seat (which means their money)! The only way Nigel Farage is going to get UKIP into parliament before the general election is to have joint candidates. As long as the UKIP/Con or UKIP/Labour candidate supports UKIP’s policies then I think this is a good move for UKIP. This is ultimately the only way that will guarantee us getting a referendum.

      • Brian Williams

        I don’t think that is true. You don’t have to give up your seat to cross the floor of the house. Christopher Brocklebank-Fowler became the only Tory to cross the floor to the SDP and kept his seat until the following election. But otherwise, I agree with your points.

        • Georgina Whelan

          You’re right Brian. What I should have said was that they would be worried that they may lose their seat once they have moved to UKIP if UKIP don’t get enough votes. What they should do however is, the day before the general election announce that they are moving over to UKIP which would mean the tories then have no time to find new MP’s.

  • John

    I have no issue with her personally, as I’m sure most right-minded people who claim to dislike her don’t.

    The issue is with the fact she’s a proven liar. She’s a person who blogs something that makes her look guilty of expenses fraud, she tells the investigation that the blog post was a lie, then as soon as she’s acquitted she claims what she said to the investigation was a lie. Somewhere in there there’s an admission of lying!

    I’m sure she’s a lovely person when you’re sat having tea and biscuits with her. But as a politician, she’s part of the problem.

    • Brian Williams

      What politician hasn’t lied? Bloody Cameron does it all the time. It’s part of the baggge.

  • anyfool

    Leaving Nadine Dorries aside do you really want to give two faced politicians two identities on the ballot.

    • Dog

      Many labour MPs do that already. Gordon Brown stood as a candidate in the 2010 election as a labour and co-operative party candidate.

  • thanksdellingpole

    Women love attention.

  • stew

    “She gets a hard time in the media”

    dont know why. she is a conviction politician. i’d vote for her, con, ukip or both

  • the viceroy’s gin

    …so does that mean Dave is a joint LibLabCon candidate?

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