Coffee House

Labour prepares to enter the battle of the best ideas

3 February 2013

Tony Blair usually grows rather awkward when asked about the current direction of the Labour party under Ed Miliband. Clearly afraid of appearing a backseat driver, the former Prime Minister tries as hard as he can to avoid delivering any kind of verdict, other than a vaguely supportive bundle of words.

He certainly did the latter in his interview on Marr this morning, but Blair also made some important points about how crucial this year will be for Labour. He said:

‘So I understand the Labour party message. And by the way, what Ed’s trying to do is tougher than what I had to do. When I became Labour leader, we’d lost four elections. This is attempting to bounce back and win after a heavy defeat.’

Claim your gift

As Blair says, turning Labour around from its 2010 defeat into a party that is united and capable of winning in just five years is a huge task. Ed Miliband unwittingly highlighted this in his own appearance on the same programme a few weeks ago, when James Landale accused Labour of performing a ‘lacuna’ on the economy. Both David Cameron and Nick Clegg have made it clear on a number of occasions that ‘can you really trust Ed Balls with your money?’ will be one of their key attack lines in 2015. But Labour currently doesn’t want to address central economic questions, even though Balls himself sees capital in attacking George Osborne’s own economic performance. James addressed this in his column in last week’s Spectator: when Miliband talks about the economy, he identifies problems, but then makes an anticlimactic pledge on something unrelated, such as cracking down on rogue landlords. Or else, the party leadership finds a pot of money that it can spend, and bumps it along from one row to another, cancelling previous ‘for now’ policy announcements whenever the wind blows in another direction.

Anyone who expected Balls and Miliband to have unveiled a cogent economic policy before the mid-point of this parliament had clearly forgotten the problems that its 1989 Meet the Challenge, Make the Change paper caused the party when, at the 1992 election, it found itself unable to step up to pledges written years earlier on areas such as welfare when the economic circumstances had changed. Blair won’t have forgotten that. But he also won’t have forgotten the struggles his party faced in government when it tried to push through bold reforms. In his interview, he added:

‘I don’t think there’s a problem with the vision, actually. I think what there will be is a big challenge when it comes to how do you translate that vision into practical policy and that’s for later in this year when the Labour party will start to unveil its policy. But you know, this is a situation where the economy is very tough, where we’re going to face a situation whoever is in Government they are going to be very constrained. And that’s why it will be important for the Labour party to show it as reformers – they are reformers and they are able to reform public services, welfare, the state and so on as well as to protect people who are vulnerable.’

In 2013, the Labour party will take ‘concrete steps’ towards sketching out where it stands on big policy problems, Miliband promised at the start of this year. He will no longer be able to rely on the government cocking up and on his spinners finding new policies and cuts to describe as ‘taxes’ (the latest is the ‘toddler tax’) or add the word ‘shambles’ to (last week it was the #armyshambles) but will instead need to avoid cocking things up himself as he confronts his party on issues it would perhaps be easier to avoid talking about. The reason Labour backbenchers seem largely content at the moment is partly because they aren’t confronting those issues. To borrow Douglas Alexander’s attack on the government in last week’s Europe debate, the impression of unity can only be achieved through the device of obscurity. But obscurity can’t turn a party around from defeat to victory in just five years.

Incidentally, as Miliband starts to consider his big ideas to unveil at autumn conference, the Tories are already stealing a march on Labour. January saw a spate of publications from groups of Conservative MPs looking forward to 2015, arguing that, unlike Miliband, they’re not just good at identifying the problem, but a workable solution, too. That battle of the best ideas will intensify this year.

Give the perfect gift this Christmas. Buy a subscription for a friend for just £75 and you’ll receive a free gift too. Buy now.

Show comments
  • helicoil

    And there is more than half the problem with Bliar and his LibLabCon cronies –

    “I think” this and “I don’t think” that -where is his/their concern for what the majority of the public think?

  • Maidmarrion

    Why are we being force fed this man?

    Judging by the comments I would deduce that the media is pedalling a loser for all sides .

    P.S careful commentators – to write truth below the line ,to criticise the journos ,to suggest they know not their ar$es$ from their elbows is to invite dummy spitting and accusations of ” cybernats” or some other puerile label!

  • Fergus Pickering

    Blair? What are the media doing talking to this grubby little man. Nobody in Britain is listening though some foreigners may still think in their ignorance that he is a functioning politician

  • Tom Tom

    ” Clearly afraid of appearing a backseat driver” Yet today’s Indie reports the Blairs as frequent guests of Cameron and his wife and that they get on very well and Blair is an adviser to Cameron and called “the master” by Osborne.

    • the viceroy’s gin

      …well, LibLabCon are clones, afterall.

  • Daniel Maris

    One thing Labour should do is have a clear energy policy.

    We now learn that the clean up at Sellafield is going to cost (at least – yes, it’s still rising) an incredible £67 billion. Yes – £67 billion!!! For that you could buy yourself 67,000 1 MW wind turbines.

    Labour need to adopt radical policies that address our needs but I am sure they will fudge energy like everything else, especially as they have a few MPs with nuclear power stations in their constituencies.

    A Labour Party strongly promoting green energy would mop up plenty of Green and Lib Dem votes.

    • Tim Reed

      …and with the resulting higher fuel bills, lose what’s left of their lower income, working class support.

      • Daniel Maris

        Catch up on the news mate – it’s nuclear that is the real burden on energy bills. £1.5 billion and the figure is rising.

        Onshore wind is comparable with coal.

        • Hexhamgeezer

          No it isn’t. Coal is reliable.

    • Daniel Maris

      “Taxpayers are now spending £1.5bn per year on Sellafield”

      That’s about £50 per annum on your energy bill each year. And you lot moan about wind turbines.

  • Daniel Maris

    Labour has a number of intellectual and policy challenges that it seems ill prepared to meet:

    Since getting rid of clause 4, Labour seems not to have any analysis of
    probably the most important issue for any society: who should own what
    and in what way. They should be doing much more to promote co-operative
    forms of ownership. John Lewis, the Co-op and Nationwide have all come
    through the economic crisis very well. but Labour seems pathetically
    afraid of promoting social forms of ownership.

    2. Labour
    remains in the grip of political correctness ideology which maintains
    all cultures are of equal validity. This hobbles the party when it
    comes to dealing with a number of issues.

    3. Labour clearly
    encouraged mass immigration which it felt advanced its cause
    electorally, but then it had to row back when it saw that its basic
    non-immigrant working class vote could easily desert it.

    I don’t
    think Miliband is really capable of winning an election – but the
    Tories (incompetent on a grand scale) could easily lose it.

    the product of an immigrant Marxist father, is not the person to be in
    charge of a government at a moment of national peril, when mass
    immigration is threatening to destroy the country. He seems a nice guy
    but that’s not exactly what we need now

  • Hexhamgeezer

    battle of the best ideas’

    When you wrote hat did you really believe it? I mean in the sense that there was a prospect of pals Ed and dave engaging in a ‘battle’ on ‘ideas’.

    Any dispute they have is at the level of ‘should we go Italian or Indian tonight?’

  • the viceroy’s gin

    “…the impression of unity can only be achieved through the device of
    obscurity. But obscurity can’t turn a party around from defeat to
    victory in just five years.”


    But that appears to be what the LibLabCon monolith is going to do. Obscurity is the plan. The major issues of the day will be obscured, and the electorate will be instructed as to the issues of importance, to be argued.

    Quite remarkable. Historic, even. All of politics functioning to obscure.

    So by definition the Speccie teenager’s statement above is wrong. One of the LibLabCon clones is going to achieve victory via this device of obscurity, so the strategy is going to work.

    But wouldn’t it be wonderful if somebody actually argued the issues of the day, in a straightforward way?

    • Daniel Maris

      You only want to hear an echo Viceroy, not a debate.

      • the viceroy’s gin

        …I think like everybody else, I’d rather not hear from you at all, son.

  • Grrr8

    This is an excellent post and you have summarised Milliband’s predicament perfectly. There is something remarkably risk averse in his approach: don’t take a position unless you absolutely have to. And Cameron seems to pick up on this in PMQs with his, “he has no policy.” My own preference would be for Milliband to take the risk and let Ed Balls let rip. The economy is the government’s achilles heel. If Labour can’t propose a cogent alternative, they are agreeing with Osborne’s position that “it’s not the Tories fault.”

    • 2trueblue

      If he lets Balls rip the risks might be greater. Balls does not have good brakes. The great thing would be to see Balls goaded and then see where he travels. There is actually a lot for them to lose should that happen. Balls has a big ego and an even bigger temper. So far it is contained.

      The media have done a lousy job of reporting what Liebore did and they need a good kicking. We had 13yrs f listening to their drivel on all the initiatives that we were to be served up, which amounted to nothing in terms of real delivery. All the money they spent for nothing.

    • Daniel Maris

      I think Miliband’s problem is that he isn’t Blair. He can’t articulate a centrist position with conviction. He is a leftist – but a cowardly one, not prepared to state what he believes.

      There is a path open to Labour but Miliband certainly isn’t the man to follow it – that’s the populist path of listening to people and empowering them. But that means Labour would have to dismantle its PC ideology.

  • andagain

    In 2013, the Labour party will take ‘concrete steps’ towards sketching out where it stands on big policy problems

    So it will move towards having a policy, but it will not go so far as having a policy?

    Whenever I wonder if there is any organisation as useless as the Conservative Party, I think of Labour.

  • Gareth

    Workable solutions?!? Very little of what the Coalition has put into place has worked, largely because of a seeming inability to tell the difference between devising a policy which sounds (politically) appealing and one which will actually deliver.

    • Russell

      Cameron is incredible, he believes in gay marriage but not a ‘man(date)’

    • 2trueblue

      Well remember the daily diatribe we had to suffer each day from Mr Bliar telling us what he was doing for us? There was very little delivery apart from the words. The media were complicit in all of it and we are daily forced to pay for the BBC who act as though they are the mouth piece for Liebore.

      • Gareth

        Sadly, the only response Tory supporters like yourself seem able to give to criticism of the coalition is to whinge about Blair (who left office five years ago), and the invasion of Iraq (ten years ago). Absolutely no attempt to defend Cameron or his government’s record – very revealing.

        • Tim Reed

          Perhaps many Tory supporters don’t find very much to defend in the coalition, but bristle at the accusation that the current administration is characterised by ‘style over substance’, especially in comparison to the previous bunch of shysters and the poisonous legacy they left for others to deal with.

          • Gareth

            In fairness to politicians of all parties, part of the job is presentational as they need to persuade and build political support in order to actually implement anything. I don’t mind “style” or “spin” or whatever people will call it, although I’d far rather listen to politicians who will discuss, debate and think through issues in detail, rather than ones who just repeat the agreed party line for that week.

            But I don’t really see what Tory supporters CAN bristle at, unless they feel their party is achieving good things. I’m not in any way a supporter of Michael Gove’s policies, nor Andrew Lansley’s NHS reorganisation, but it seems to me that these are the only significant policy areas in which aims have been met. The primary purpose of the Coalition – deficit reduction – has fallen way short of expectation.

            It was revealing that the government chose to publish the “progress report” annex to their mid-term review. It seems that they felt it was better to publicly admit to failing in some areas than to be perceived as entirely incompetent. By contrast, whether or not one agreed with the aims of New Labour, the majority of that which they set out to achieve was implemented.

        • Wessex Man

          Well Gareth as I’m not a Tory, Lib/Dem of Labour dud, I’ll have a moan about them all. My pet particular dislike being reserved for Gordon Brown, the puppet master in the Blair years. The shallow Call me Dave, who fooled so many of you for so long and his mad Chancellor. The Diane Abbott effect Clegg and his pal now hopefully going to spend time at HM pleasure. Interesting times.

        • 2trueblue

          I voted Tory, yes. I did not vote for the LibDums. This is not a win win situation for anyone. The poison chalice delivered in 2010 should have been delivered back to Liebore. As Cameroon did not get a workable majority we now know that he should have left Liebore limp on with the LibDums, and then we would be in a very different situation.

          What revelations do you have to pass on?

  • @PhilKean1

    I have a dream of seeing a certain person prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

    And in my dream, when that person is found guilty, he receives a long prison sentence and has his assets seized in order to compensate the British people for the billions they have lost because they were undemocratically integrated into the federal EU.

    • Daniel Maris

      We don’t have to listen to the dream nonsense. Why don’t you just say what you mean?

  • Smithersjones2013

    Remember the 1st rule of British Politics:

    Never believe a word a Labour Politicians says (and check your money/wallet is still in your pocket as they leave the room.

    • Tim Reed

      Correct – except the bit where you let them in!

      Labour – Never let them in!

      • Daniel Maris

        Why ever not? Are you saying that the current government has achieved higher economic growth than the previous Labour government?

        • Tim Reed

          Not yet – we’re still deep in the hole the previous lot left us in.
          Not that I have much faith in the current lot, but it’s more that I’ll ever have for Labour.

  • Boudicca_Icenii

    “In 2013, the Labour party will take ‘concrete steps’ towards sketching out where it stands on big policy problems.”
    No it won’t. Like the CONs, it can’t take a stance on big policy problems. It will have to do what what the EU tells it to do in most policy areas.
    The battle for big ideas is between the pro-EU LibLabCON v UKIP.

    • HooksLaw


      Even if out of the EU and in the EEA we would comply with EU single market regulations.
      So much form your big idea.

      • Tom Tom

        We would comply as China complies as the US complies. Had we complied with DIN standards 40 years ago we should have had a competitive advantage.

  • Adrian Drummond

    That man is a national disgrace. The even bigger disgrace is that the mainstream media is still enthrall with him.

    • Field Marshal

      Not just a disgrace.
      He mislead the Commons on Iraq and probably also Bush.
      He then mislead Chilcot.
      See The Independent:-
      He misjudged the public gallery when Sir John Chilcot invited him to say he had regrets for those who had lost their lives. “Responsibility but not a regret for removing Saddam Hussein,” he said, to cries of: “What, no regrets?” Mr Blair added: “I think he was a monster. I think he threatened not just a region but the world.” “You are a liar”, “And a murderer” came two shouts from the gallery.

    • ENGAGE

      Tony Blair is blackmailing Ed Miliband. Tony Blair can end Milibands political career by disclosing a few uncomfortable truths, especially those under review by Chilcot.

      • David Lindsay

        Miliband was not even an MP at the time of the Iraq War.

      • Tony Quintus

        Chilcot has bugger all to do with it, all he has to do is remind everyone that it was Ed who effectively scuppered the replacement of our coal fired powerstations, which is going to lead to severe shortages when the EU Large combustion directive kicks in

  • David Lindsay

    If Blair had ever read anything, then he would know that this had all been going on for years. His own period either as Labour Leader or as Prime Minister was not exactly noted for its intellectual stimulation.

    The same goes for the media that are still obsessed with him. He is suitably undemanding on the mind for them.

    • Tom Tom

      He is an andogynous liar perfect for Medialand

  • toco10

    It all its history Labour has always left the Economy and indeed the Country in a far worse state than it inherited so there is no reason to give it the benefit of the doubt ever again.

    • David Lindsay

      There was no recession on the day of the last General Election.

      • Harold Angryperson

        Because McSnot borrowed billions to prop up the economy in order to try and win the election.

        • David Lindsay

          Less than now.

          No one believes you, you know? Labour is going to be in for a generation after 2015, and even The Spectator accepts that as a simple fact of life. Whatever then dislodges it will not be the Conservative Party, which will have ceased to exist long before then.

        • HooksLaw

          Correct – ‘spending brought forward’ as they called it. Having brought spending forward, Labour then call for more spending.
          Under labour all spending is brought forward.

          Laughable Mr Lindsay then pretends that everything after all this is the tory party’s fault.

          • David Lindsay

            That is the electorate’s view. And will remain so, since it is now entirely and immovably fixed.

          • Tom Tom

            Neverthless it is Osborne that will borrow more 2010-2015 than BRown 1997-2010

        • Tom Tom

          It is good that someone tried to prop up the economy in 2009-2010……things are so much better now with twice as many tax increases as tax reductions and an economy that makes the nation outside London feel good. Osborne has at least managed to spend more in 5 years than Brown managed in 13 and of course Dave and Gideon “have cut the deficit by 25%” so Sterling should be becoming a hard currency soon………..keeping injecting your stuff it must help you with your “personal reality space”

    • Tom Tom

      No the situation in 1974 was far worse than in 1979 – in 1979 however the Leader of The Opposition was urging Ford workers to bust any pay restraint

  • Russell

    Please Isabel keep putting forwards your anti-conservative views and articles with a picture of Blair as often as possible. Just the sight of Blair makes any voter of even average intelligence want to vomit. The hatred felt towards Blair (and Labour) cannot be forgotten in just 5 years.
    From the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, MP’s expenses fraud, cash for questions, cash for honours, politicisation of the police, Phone hacking, there is plenty to choose from that all took place during labours 13years..

    Almost weekly, ‘left-overs’ from labours 13 year Shambles resurfaces, such as Stafford Hospital killing 1200 patients due to target labour

    The appalling state of the education system is a constant reminder of what labour did over 13 years.
    In fact in every area of government, the appalling mess labour made, is, and will continue to have to be addressed by future governments.

    • Span Ows

      But it isn’t just Isabel and others here, it seems the whole media are playing to get Labour reelected by default.

      • Russell

        Just as the same shower kept lying about how wonderful Brown was for almost 13 years, saying he was the greatest Chancellor ever etc.

        It is expected from the BBC luvvies, but even Sky and the speccie are indeed constantly hammering the tories and/or LibDems suggesting splits and leadership challenges daily, it really is stomach churning stuff.
        I will not be voting for Cameron or Clegg or Miliband at the next election because of my views on the EU, but the concerted effort of this journalist in particular, but as you say, the media in general against Cameron/Clegg and pro Labour is dreadful.

        • David Lindsay

          Only Blairite retreads are allowed on air. Now apparently including even the old monster himself. The Labour Party as it now exists is so completely starved of coverage that Blair can bemoan a lack of ideas and no one corrects him.

          • Russell

            The grinning face of the useless ex postman Labour MP Johnson on Brillo’s This Week every week is only slightly less repulsive than the face of Abbott every week was.
            The equally repulsive Chris Leslie seems to be the media luvvie in constant demand along with Vaz turns most stomachs.

            • HooksLaw

              Johnson is meant to be there as somehow vaguely objective, but he is simply a labour propagandist, just like Abbott was.
              Its hard to believe, but since this is the BBC we should not be surprised, but the other alternative they dredge up is Alistair Campbell.

          • Fergus Pickering

            What ideas have you got then? Just a couple will do.

        • Paddy

          Russell: It’s because the journalists are so immature and so are the politicians.

          Even Fraser on Andrew Marr this morning said absolutely nothing when the Leftie sitting next to him tried to link Stafford hospital to cuts and this Government.

          • the viceroy’s gin

            …why would the Speccie teenager want to disagree with his fellow leftist?

            • Daniel Maris

              Oh God, please give up the “Speccie tennage” trope. Or at least vary it. Nothing worse than a saloon bar bore.

              • the viceroy’s gin

                …unless it’s some socialist nutter in love with windmills and death panels.

      • David Lindsay

        If they are, then they are only, as is their wont, taking back with one hand what they gave with the other. In May 2010, Fleet Street and the City staged a coup in which a man was installed as Prime Minister who had no more won a General Election than you or I had, but who had gone to the same school as half of the City and four fifths of Fleet Street.

      • George_Arseborne

        But the Tories are not electable. Why? The in house fight is too much. I thought promise of an in/out referendum will keep them united. Instead we saw more plot to iust the PM. The electorates are not keen to such nonsense. Cam is out 2015. You guys can fight well for the goid of the nation.

    • dalai guevara

      Ended the era of living in single glazed homes, heating with coal and having chippy dinners though, did he not? I give you that those who lived on credit then will go straight back to that now…

      • David Lindsay

        Nothing wrong with coal. Or fish and chips. Ask posh people.

        And now that an almost 1970s-like three fifths of the population identifies as working-class, up from a mere 24 per cent only 12 months ago, the Marxism Today basis of New Labour in the perceived need to make peace with the supposed permanence of Thatcherism seems pretty silly, even stupid.

        It is worth reiterating the point, though: the very word “Thatcherism”, together with the idea that post-War Labourism was a busted flush and that its socioeconomic base had collapsed, goes back to a journal, for which Blair wrote, and which was owned and subsidised by the Communist Party.

        • dalai guevara

          I frankly cannot see where you are going with this. Thatcherite? Communist? Sounds all pretty ‘focussed on history’ to me – I am a practical man, what we need is opportunity and an end to pretending that artificial wealth is real wealth, and that debts don’t exist.

          Once that wealth is created, there then is little point sporting high rich/poor 10% discrepancy ratios like Liberia, Nigeria or Iran – a direction we are clearly and measurably heading towards today.

          • David Lindsay

            It matters utterly, in those terms, that the idea that Thatcher had created a new hegemony, and the even older one that the Labour base no longer existed (a notion going all the way back to a piece by Eric Hobsbawm in 1978, when most people thought that Thatcher would be a one-term or a no-term Prime Minister), both originated in the theoretical journal of the organisation that always most hated the Labour Party.

            The whole of British politics has come to be defined by this fallacy: the redefinition of Labour as the force for giving Thatcherism the cultural and constitutional effect that Toryism would not allow, and now the redefinition of the Conservative Party as the force for even greater fidelity to the original economic vision, leading with inexorable logic to even more Blairite cultural and constitutional measures, such as same-sex “marriage” and the abolition of the House of Lords.

            That culture and the Constitution should be conformed to some utopian masterplan defined in terms of economics is itself pure Marxism.

            I do not want to start making a habit of linking to my own material, but for 800 words on what we need instead at this point in history, please take a look at . Comments on it over there, please, as I am sure that Ms Hardman and Mr Nelson will agree.

            • Wessex Man

              Oh dear, you get worse by the day, let me guess you are writing a major work on the effects of the David Lindsay phenomenom on Western Europe Society in the modern age.

        • Tom Tom

          Thatcherism was simply the application of North Sea Oil revenues to Consumnption and Imports

        • Fergus Pickering

          But what do they mean ‘workng class’ when they are so obviously middle class?

          • David Lindsay

            Not after two and half years of this Government, they are not. That will be its lasting legacy: a country in which 60 per cent of people identify as working-class. And vote accordingly.

      • Colonel Mustard

        You must be very young or very brainwashed if you really think that it was 1997 before the double glazing era began in the UK (it was from the 1970s) and the coal-fired home disappeared. As for chips, as hard as the new puritan meddlers and health fascists of the left have tried to ban anything remotely enjoyable, still popular I believe.

        And the UK has never stopped living on credit. Brown encouraged it.

        So, all hyperbole really.

        • Colonel Mustard

          PS And Blair finally stopped children being sent up the chimneys by the wicked Tories and liberated the slaves from the Home Counties plantations.

        • dalai guevara

          Oh believe me, I still meet clients that have single glazing but solar panels on the roof – it’s hilarious. And isn’t it patatas bravas nowadays?

          • Tom Tom

            Yes but they don’t pay for solar panels – they get paid by fleeced electricity consumers

          • Colonel Mustard

            Then you have contradicted your own comment. If you are still bumping into clients with single glazing then the era of living in single glazed homes has not ended. You have hoist yourself on your own petard.

            Patatas bravas? Not in Mustard Castle.

            • dalai guevara

              No, not a contradiction. I did not say ‘Blair eradicated’, I stated ‘ended the era of’. Of course there are always some who are left behind, and always some who wish to be left behind. And yes, the era of the chip shop is over…

    • Paddy

      Russell: And I bet Andy Burnham will be nowhere to be seen this week re. Stafford Hospital.

  • Cutla

    Even before the last election was even announced it was clearly obvious that the party which won would only have one term in Government. The decisions which the winner would be required to take in order to drag the country out of the hole it is in were always going to be unpopular.

    For that reason I have to disagree with you when you say Ed Miliband has a “huge task” to complete.

    • Span Ows

      I agree, at the time I thought Brown’s bigot comment was a last ditch effort to lose the election. It was far closer than anyone expected.

      • Fergus Pickering

        It wasn’t close at all. Labour got 29% of the votes. The Tories have never done so badly.

    • Tim Reed

      I fear you might be right. Add in the scuppered boundary reforms, and it’s Labour’s to lose (Lib-Lab coalition…shudder). The only hope is that the shallow obsession with personality triumphs, and people cannot stand the thought of the horrid Balls creature & the wierdo-wonk Miliband leading the nation.

      • 2trueblue

        If only one could believe that people are engaged in the process anymore. We had 13yrs of platitudes served up by Liebore, the media applauding and telling us (even now) how wonderful they were. It is all so depressing. We have a media who never knew the facts, lacked discernment, journalistic skills, and I think you are right, we will get Liebore and the LibDums, and we will be ever deeper into the EU and a truely socialist country.

        • Tim Reed

          I agree – except for one point – I’m absolutely sure that the media were all too aware of the facts, they just engaged in selective reporting.

          How many times has anyone seen the reporting on any TV news programme of the frankly jaw-dropping revelation by Andrew Neather of New Labour’s true motivation regarding their policy of mass immigration? They all knew, it was just too explosive to report. We are poorly served by the MSM that is all too often either craven or cowardly. Ditto in regard to the EU – anyone relying solely on the BBC for information would think a UK outside this abomination of a project would quickly become a bankrupt nightmare. They needn’t worry, New Labour got there first.

  • UlyssesReturns

    “And that’s why it will be important for the Labour party to show it as reformers – they are reformers and they are able to reform public services, welfare, the state and so on as well as to protect people who are vulnerable.’ Except the labour party are not reformers are they? And the vulnerable expanded massively (both in girth and numbers) under your incompetent, criminal administration. You, Mr Blair found it too hard to over rule your mentalist chancellor when it came to reforming welfare and thinking the unthinkable was obviously for others. What you did do was preside over the destruction of the social order in this country and deliberately created a labour-beholden client-state that has gerrymandered the vote to the point where a conservative majority is all but impossible. I almost threw my shoe at my television when I watched you on the Sunday Politics show, you lying, treasonous, poisonous scumbag.

    • Span Ows

      Don’t hold back…by the way, I agree with every word.

    • Hexhamgeezer forgot anti-democratic sack of shyte

    • Andy

      You shouldn’t be so unfair to scumbag’s. They don’t deserve to be linked to Blair and the moron Brown.

    • 2trueblue

      Stafford. Interesting that it happened under the very people who always say they can be trusted with the NHS. They bred that culture. They gave us the biggest rise in child poverty, single parenthood, youth unemployment. The list is pretty long, and it is rarely mentioned.

Can't find your Web ID? Click here