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David Cameron to give Commons statement on Algeria

18 January 2013

David Cameron had no choice but to postpone today’s speech: while it would have been a relief to get the darned thing over and done with, a navel-gazing address on Conservative Europe policy would have done him no favours in the long-term when the Algerian hostage crisis is still going on.

The Prime Minister will be briefed at 9am with another COBRA meeting and will then give a Commons statement at 11am. He was horrified yesterday to discover that Algeria had launched its rescue mission without consulting the UK, when he had already asked to be informed. The Mail quotes one official saying ‘We asked them not to go in with all guns blazing and they just did it anyway. They insisted this was their sovereign territory and it was their operation.’

Though events have been beyond his control, Cameron is good in a crisis, and adept at handling sensitive situations. Today’s statement will provide some more of the ‘further bad news, very difficult news’ that the Prime Minister warned about last night. Today will be another test of his premiership: just not quite the one he had pencilled in for 18 January.

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  • chan chan

    Reuters reports the comments of a muslim at the plant let free by his more pious co-religionists:

    “”The terrorists told us at the very start that they would not hurt Muslims but were only interested in the Christians and infidels,” Abdelkader, 53, said by telephone from his home in the nearby town of In Amenas. “‘We will kill them,’ they said.”

    Anyone who is in any doubt as to what the purpose of Islamic Jihad is needs their head examined, and is in need of help pulling it out of their ar*e. Muslims keep telling us over and over again why they do what they do, and point to the source texts as justification. And ‘we’ don’t believe them. They have their own 1400 year old reasons to hate us and kill us, that have nothing to do with The West or western foreign policy, or Mali. There is nothing we can do, no modification of our behaviour, that will change this. Ever. The commands in Islamic doctrine to do so are perfect, unalterable, non-negotiable and eternal. They are, after all, the perfect word of Allah and the perfect Muslim, Mohammed. How can perfection be changed? Islam is designed so it cannot be altered. So forget ‘reforming’ Islam. Pure fantasy. Its sole purpose is to wipe out any competing political ideology wherever it comes into contact with it, and that’s exactly what it’s been doing for 1400 years. It did it through the entire Middle East, North Africa, parts of Asia, and tried it on in Europe but failed. How do you think all these areas became muslim in the first place?

    It’s doing it right now, everywhere.

    As an aside, I heard an Algerian on the radio last night saying that in 1994, pious muslims invaded an apartment building and took families hostage. The army arrived with tanks and blew the entire block to pieces, killing everybody in it. Job done…yesterday sounds like more of the same.

    • HooksLaw

      I don’t think you are telling us anything new that there are a whole load of religious lunatics in the world, or that Islam seems a to be particularly steeped in the middle ages.

      But do be careful how widely you tar them with the same brush – some of them play cricket.
      And after all these nutjobs are a good advert for the foolishness of bigotry and ignorance

      • chan chan

        Islam “seems to be particularly steeped in the middle ages”, as if it only appears to be, and the reality is different, or somehow debateable!

        Very good.
        You ‘seem’ to be one of the people I mention at the top, HooksLaw!

        • Tom Tom

          Middle Ages ? More like 8th Century Arabia

      • Austin Barry

        The Religion of Peace wears a butcher’s apron as its vestment and ignorance as its liturgy.

      • Daniel Maris

        Why do political truths have to be “new”? Winston Churchill didn’t stop warning of the perils of appeasement just because he’d said it ten times before.

        In fact you are not telling us anything new. We all know there is a range from peacable secularists to fanatical violent Jihadis.

        But most followers of the religion subscribe to Sharia to a greater or lesser degree. It is for them to justify their devotion to a totalitarian ideology, not for democrats opposing the ideology to explain themselves.

        Remember, in 2001, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that sharia law is “not compatible with democracy”. It referred amongst other things to the way proponents of Sharia used “takiyye, which consisted in hiding its beliefs until it had attained that goal”. Of course all totalitarian movements use subterfuge. Nothing new there, either.

        • Tom Tom

          Winston Churchill developed the Ten Year Rule in 1925 and kept renewing it until he lost office in 1929…….

    • Daniel Maris

      The Daily Mail has an interesting article on how Sharia is beginning to operate in a UK context. For those with no imagination, they should view the video.


  • 2trueblue

    The Algerians made their decision that they contain the situation in their country, and refused help from Obama, Hollande, the Japanese PM, and Cameron. That is their right. The hostage takers then decided to move with the hostages and the result we know. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

  • MirthaTidville

    “ They insisted this was their sovereign territory and it was their operation.’` Quite so the thought that they couldn`t move without Cameron`s say so is not only laughable but shows in how little regard he is held……still no different here eh

    • HooksLaw

      More absurdity. There is no reason why they could not have accepted help from our special forces and we are entitled to have asked them to accept it. In the meantime several Brits are now dead as a consequence, something which does not seem to be bothering you.

      • 2trueblue

        No reason at all why they could not have accepted help….. but they said ‘NO’ to Obama, and the others.

        • HooksLaw

          Agreed – and we can see how the anti Cameron point was again a contrived one. But there is no reason why we should be disappointed they refused.

          The event again shows how important intelligence is in combating terrorism. Again I can only point out that we really needed to have been investing in our special forces not in 2 giant aircraft carriers. Another sad example of Labour incompetence.

          • 2trueblue

            I am no fan of Camerons but am finding the continual anti Cameron issues dragged into everything boring and stupid. The BBC are doing the job really well and have a far wider reach.

    • 2trueblue

      You are conveniently forgetting in being ignored he is in the good company of Obama, Hollande, the Japanese primeminister, and others .

    • realfish

      Never miss an opportunity to score a point, Mirtha. Even in tragic circumstances like this. So sick.

      • MirthaTidville

        Making a comment about the Political side of it. Where do I reduce in any way the tragic consequences of what happened. I was merely making comment on the political side show. If you think thats sick, or you cant tell the difference then you really shouldn`t be making comments.

      • 2trueblue

        Agree, this has become an anti Cameron issue, with people fixating, incorrectly on Camerons actions. This has nothing to do Cameron, Hollande, Obama, or the Japanese PM, it is about the Algerian forces and government, and their decision in their country.

    • Marian

      Algeria is an independent nation and it is its duty to deal with internal deficits .. I wouldnt imagine Cameron calling Obama: “Hey Dude, I need help .. we’ve got some issue to deal with in Britain .. can you send some troops over here !! it is a matter of principles; Algeria’s past colonial history does not tolerate any more invasions even if it was to do with regional complexities ..

  • telemachus

    Let us hope he does not lie and he does say that the prompt crushing of the terrorists at whatever cost is what he and Obama wanted

    • Whyshouldihavetoregister

      All together now: STRAW MAN!

    • David B

      Can you not keep the political points scoring out of it until the bodies are cold!

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