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Order returns to the Tory party on fuel duty vote

12 November 2012

Tonight was a good one for the Tory whips. What looked last week like it could have been a tricky vote on a Labour motion to delay the fuel duty rise, turned into a relatively easy government win. There were only nine Tory MPs absent from the vote and every other Tory MP backed the government.

Now, the reason there was no rebellion was, at least partly, because Treasury ministers dropped a fair few hints that there would be action on fuel duty in the autumn statement. Robert Halfon, who has led a sustained campaign on this issue, said after the vote that it was ‘Right to wait until’ the autumn statement on this issue.

The question for Osborne now is whether he can find enough money to scrap the rise outright rather than just postpone it for a few months.

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  • Chris lancashire

    Good to see yet another pathetic little scheme from Balls bite the dust. He remains the Conservatives best asset.

    • Sean

      But it did work for Balls. The majority of voters don’t read these blogs or watch news programs, they get their information from sound bites. Balls came out of this as a winner to the majorities perception, if the raise doesn’t go through. To most people the summary of what happened is:

      Treasury, as is its nature to NEVER give back, announces raise is in its calculations.

      Balls harrumphs and puts a motion to debate/protest the raise.

      Treasury / panicked government leak / spin / brief that raise will be delayed.

      Balls is perceived as a hero to the great unwashed via sound bite news items.

      Yes I know Labour created the escalator, yes I know Labour were trying to tax people off the roads, and yes I know they left the finances of the country in ruins.

      That said you have to give credit. The Labour party is doing its job of opposing, and doing a very good job at that. What we need to see is the government doing their job of leading, which of late there has been very little evidence of a job done well.

      • Chris lancashire

        Sorry Sean, watching News at Ten last night saw no mention of Balls or his silly little ploy. Are Labour doing a good job opposing the government? Well Watson’s smear attempt may be regarded as such by some but I have yet to hear any sound economic policies from Labour – to be fair it may be too earlyand they may provide some before the election. As for leadership – Milliband – leader? If, heaven preserve us, Milliband/Balls were elected we would be set for a total rerun of the Blair/Brown backstabbing which wasted most of Labour’s 13 years in power.

  • HooksLaw

    Labour will vote against every tax rise and spending cut and propose endless tax cuts and spending rises, despite at the same time professing a willingness to take the tough decisions that the country needs as a result of events which were never their fault.

    The only fact that clouds this observation is the repetitive activities of thick backbench Tory MPs like Halfon who play Ed Ball’s game for him.

    If CoffeeHouse is as popular as it would like to believe then we must hope Halfon and his pea-brained friends read this and realise what a bunch of jerks they are.

    • Chris lancashire

      Very much doubt it HooksLaw, Halfon, Cash et al are so far up themselves and possessed by their obsessions they wouldn’t take any notice. Oh for a few more decent MPs like Hollobone.

  • George_Arseborne

    Order returning in deed.? The back side hint from the Treasury indicating that there will be no introduction of the 3p rise in fuel duty this January that rescued this chancellor. Ed Balls actually gained from this because the public will see him as fighting the course of ordinary people. This is the premise that gave Obama his second term. The Sun newspaper also crown Balls as Hero of the week.Osborne is doomed and out of touch.

    • HooksLaw

      You have not heard the autumn statement yet. Labour and Balls created the escalator.

  • telemachus

    Meebe good for the whips
    But what of the mealy-mouthed Tories who gave us the double dip recession and now are seen to be voting down attempts to reduce taxes for the ordinary voters.
    They were quick to give a 5% tax break to the filthy rich

    • HooksLaw

      Taxes were raised for the rich. How come labour managed to only tax the filthy rich at 40p for 13 years?
      Well you snivelling hypocrite?

      The govt (started by labour) encourages a fall in its petrol revenues by giving tax breaks for economic cars.
      The govt should abolish the tax breaks and lower petrol tax (for the unwashed poor like me) and make money on VAT on expensive cars and the extra petrol that is used.

  • David Lindsay

    If Labour has the wit to seek out and then to put up sufficiently strong local candidates (although possibly even if not), then at least the following Liberal Democrats have just lost their seats:

    Danny Alexander, Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey; Norman Baker, Lewes; Sir Alan Beith, Berwick-upon-Tweed; Annette Brooke, Mid Dorset and North Poole; Jeremy Browne, Taunton; Malcolm Bruce, Gordon; Sir Menzies Campbell, North East Fife; Alistair Carmichael, Orkney and Shetland; Tim Farron, Westmorland and Lonsdale; Don Foster, Bath; Andrew George, St Ives; Stephen Gilbert, St Austell & Newquay; Duncan Hames, Chippenham; Sir Nick Harvey, North Devon; David Heath, Somerton and Frome; Martin Horwood, Cheltenham; Chris Huhne, Eastleigh; Charles Kennedy, Ross, Skye and Lochaber; Norman Lamb, North Norfolk; David Laws, Yeovil; Michael Moore, Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale; Tessa Munt, Wells; Alan Reid, Argyll and Bute; Dan Rogerson, North Cornwall; Bob Russell, Colchester; Adrian Sanders; Sir Robert Smith, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine; John Thurso, Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross; Steve Webb, Thornbury & Yate; Mark Williams, Ceredigion; Roger Williams, Brecon & Radnorshire.

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  • itdoesntaddup

    He should charge more for the vignette for overseas trucks: it should be priced to even out the duty differential on diesel.

    He should outwit Balls by going for a modest cut in fuel duty. Increases probably lead to a reduction in overall tax receipts as businesses fold (so lower tax payments on profits and employment) and fuel purchases fall, and a rise in welfare payments. What’s the sensible thing to do to cut the deficit?

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