Film protests in Middle East

15 September 2012

It’s about time we revamped the rather stale format of the BBC film review show, the one that has that Nina Simone signature tune and was presented by Barry Norman and more latterly Jonathan Ross. I don’t even know if the programme is still extant.

Anyway, my idea is for a new review show which would be set in a branch of the KFC franchise and presented by fundamentalist Muslims. Any film they didn’t like they’d burn down the restaurant and decapitate the manager, or manageress.

Are these people running riot in Khartoum, Cairo and Tripoli just very stupid, or mentally ill? Or both?

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  • Daniel Maris

    For those of you who doubt that Islam might be under pressure, take a look at this:


    This guy is probably sincere, but doesn’t understand how Islam works. So he is making a concession to modernism – suggesting that people who mock Mohammed shouldn’t be killed.

    This is how a violence-based ideology gets unpicked. First of all there are the individuals who say – “No we don’t need violence to put this ideology in place.” There were Communists who said that and Catholics who said that. They were wrong. And this
    guy is wrong. Islam DEFINITELY can survive only with the threat of violence. But it’s great that there are people around like this deluded guy who really think everyone will believe in Islam if you take away the threats of violence.

    So, I find this encouraging.

  • Wilhelm

    Testing 123

  • Wilhelm


  • Hexhamgeezer

    What about a new(ish) format cookery programme ‘Come Die With Me’? A moderate muslim spends a week with four infidels, each night hosted by one of them. The prize at the end of the week is a thousand pound and survival but if you offend the muslim at any point they, quite righty, behead you for disrespecting Islam (it’s a BBC prog). The beheading is not shown (that would be wrong).
    All meals must be halal.

  • Andy Gill

    Mentally ill or stupid? Neither Rod, they are in an arrested stage of development. They have not learned to control their emotions, a trick which most westerners have mastered by the age of 11 or 12. This also explains why so many Islamic countries are social shit-holes and economic land-fill sites.

  • In2minds

    Our future King thinks Islam is a peaceful religion, so is he very stupid, or mentally ill? Or both?

    • Austin Barry

      He once aspired to be a tampon. Says it all.

      • Daniel Maris

        Those were the days…when thanks to Rupert we were party to the Royals’ innermost erotic thoughts…tampons on toilet seats, indeed… :)

        Yep. Whilst I think constitutional monarchy is in many ways a v. rational form of government, in our particular circumstances, Charles’ liking for Islam amounts to something close to treason and not just a harmless passion.

        • William Reid Boyd

          He wanted to recincarnate as one of Camilla’s tampons. That’s more Buddhist than Islam and in any case Islam discourages tampons: “It is offensive (makruh) to have this cotton (kursuf) inserted fully in
          the internal part of the vagina, because it resembles masturbation.
          (Hadith: Majmu’a Rasa’il Ibn Abidin, 1/84-85). Not sure what the Vatican position might be.

  • Augustus

    So the present American administration is experiencing what any other has experienced
    or will experience in the future – but with one difference. Obama predicted the waters would part and that relationships would improve with his more kid glove approach. Of course it didn’t work and never will. Obama, in reality, is just the latest in the line of Great Satans, and this is just one more wave of protests in a long line of previous protests used by Islamists to stir up discontent and unrest towards all things Western. Islamists don’t give a crap about US leadership. Same infidel – different face and name. The more important question is what should the US do about the ME, and foreign aid overall? But one thing is certain: Bush left a much better ME foundation for Obama, and yet he’s managed to turn both new and old allies into enemies. Unfortunately, these five steps backwards are going to cost a lot of lives, and are not easily reversible. If he stays for another four years, he will have a far more dangerous ME to manage than what was left to him.

  • Archimedes

    Just need to send them a precautionary message:

    “Look chaps, we understand that you’re peeved. Nevertheless, have you ever heard the expression “using a sledgehammer to crack a nut”? Well, we don’t use sledgehammers anymore: we use tomahawk missiles now, because we only have to hit the carriage return key this way – and you are the nut, literally. So stop making damn fools of yourselves, or we will have to crack you. While, in the past, you may have felt that your chances against the sledgehammer were reasonable, we assure you that your chances against the tomahawk are considerably lower and, historically speaking, the nut has not yet cracked the sledgehammer. All in all, we find that the interests of the west and the interests of the east are aligned in this particular matter: you should stop.”

  • Guest

    Burning down a KFC? Maybe they’re food lovers.

  • William Reid Boyd

    Just trying to make their way up in their world the only way they know how.

    Not really very different from going for a priest in the Catholic third world or for that matter the Irish republic of not so very long ago. Or indeed our own sceptred island of less than one and a half centuries ago in Victorian times, when to become a fellow at a university, even a humble schoolmaster, one had to take holy orders.

    Were those good doctors of divinity also stupid or mentally ill?

    • Daniel Maris

      I don’t think you are making the right comparisons. These riots are similar more to the anti-semitic riots in Limerick in the early 20th century, or the Nazi book burning, or the witch burnings or the burnings at the stake of religious opponents in the 16th century. I don’t think people really have a major problem with the Muslim world being conservative in terms of dress or in being dominated by religion per se. It is the murderous tantrums, the oppression of non-Muslims and the targetted terrorism that people rightly oppose.

      • William Reid Boyd

        I certainly agree with your last sentence about murderous tantrums, the terrorism and the oppression of non-muslims (notwithstanding Islam’s absurdly unjustified posture of tolerance). I happened to teach in Saudi Arabia (at what was essentially a local school and not an international school) some years back and the feeling of oppression was palpable. We non-muslim British staff there used to ‘joke’ that we weren’t racist until we came to Saudi … I find it quite impossible to rid myself subsequently of what rationally must be a racist stereotype, that Arabs are by nature hot-blooded and trigger-happy.

        Nevertheless I don’t see these as riots but as genuine protests and I side with the communique originally issued by the American embassy at Cairo (in which city incidentally I was brought up). I would rather liken the rev Jones’ burning of the Koran to the Nazi book burnings and liken the You-tube clip of the ‘Innocence of Muslims’ movie I saw to the strikingly similar clips of the ‘Protocols of Zion’ television series that was aired on Egyptian TV a few years back (an example of course of Islam’s religious tolerance it begs to instruct us in).

        For me the protests are not so much an expression of religious bigotry as a defense, exactly as the protestors say they are, of a way of life they have a vested interest in to preserve and my point simply that we don’t have to go back very far in our own history to find parallels, and that even after our own religious reformations and granting of freedoms in religious observance.

        As to what processes can possibly bring the same reformations and genuine freedom of religious belief to Islam I simply can’t imagine in the present moment, but at any rate Islam has moved on somewhat from burying Jews alive, as we also have from burning dissidents (an enlightened monarch in the shape of Elizabeth I being helpful there), and notwithstanding my racist instincts I’m hopeful that the ‘Arab Spring’ movements might be a catalyst.

        • Barry

          Huge difference between burning a single book in protest, albeit a stupid one, and chucking the contents of a library onto a bonfire.

          • William Reid Boyd

            Both were symbolic acts and not protests. The Nazis were expressing their contempt for Western liberal values, the rev Jones his congregation’s contempt for Islam. Western liberal values of the time were expressed in a number of writers such as Thoms Mann and Emile Zola whose works were burnt, while Islam is above all expressed by the Koran. There’s no difference at all.

            • Barry

              Nonsense. Obviously Nazi book burning had some symbolic significance, but it was also part of a wider policy of censorship and wasn’t confined to 1933. Books totally unavailable in Germany were published elsewhere to make up for the loss. The Dutch-Jewish
              publisher, Querido, being one example.

              Burning one copy of the Koran, presumably owned by Jones, was hardly censorship.

              • William Reid Boyd

                Not nonsense.

                The Nuremburg book burnings were organised by students in 1933 and were designed (and openly expressed as such) as a symbolic act of cleansing. It inaugrated an era of censorship under Goebbels, who spoke in Berlin of a ‘cleansing of the German spirit’ at the first and most infamous book burnings held throughout Germany on 10 May 1933, but they lasted only a few weeks and were finished and done with before censorship was actually introduced. They absolutely were symbolic acts conducted in a festive atmosphere. They were absolutely not part of any wider policy of censorship at the time.

                Emanuel Querido’s publishing house in Amsterdam was raided by the Gestapo a few days after the Nazis occupied Amsterdam and his business put under Nazi control. Querido and his wife went into hiding but were betrayed and subsequently murdered at the Sobibor extermination camp on 23 July 1943.

                Done here.

                • Barry

                  Well I haven’t “done here”.

                  1933 was the start of a number of blacklists of works regarded as un-German. I suggest you start with:

                  und Aufruf
                  Grundsätzliches zur Anfertigung von Schwarzen Listen
                  Prinzipelles zur Säuberung der öffentlichen Bücherein
                  Liste des schädlichen und unerwünschten Schrifttums

                  “They were absolutely not part of any wider policy of censorship at the time.” Mere coincidence then? Do you seriously believe that these blacklists were not enforced? And finally – don’t try to shore up a weak argument with words like “absolutely”. They don’t convince anyone.

                • William Reid Boyd

                  No really I’m done here. You carry on by all means, Barry.

  • Asmodeus

    It is obvious that the Islamists and their left wing allies will eventually do for us unless we do for them first .It is that simple.

  • Daniel Maris
  • Frank Sutton

    Come on, there’s an opportunity for good here – just get them to torch KFC’s anyway.

  • Austin Barry

    I’ve long since concluded that Muslims are the most humourless, joyless of people. I suggest that all UK infidels carry Ken Dodd-style Tickling Sticks and, when passing one of these gloomy theocrats, give them a light tickle under the chin and chirp, “How tickled, I am, Mr Islam. Have you ever been tickled in the Halals?”

    I’m sure that this would be very good for community cohesion, What say, chums?

    • Daniel Maris

      It’s a shame Alan Koran is no longer around to write you some one liners Austin.

      If they object you could say “You Hadith coming”.

      • Max

        Little sook

  • David Lindsay

    The paid Lebanese supporters of our dear friends in Saudi Arabia, in the same position as the Bushes and the Clintons, have been demonstrating against the Holy Father’s
    visit. Whereas that visit is warmly welcomed by Hezbollah, coalition partner of Christian parties (under a Sunni Prime Minister, as the Constitution requires, just as it requires a Maronite Catholic President) and recognised by them as the last line of defence.

    Exactly the same people who have burnt down a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Lebanese Tripoli because they do not like the Pope have also stormed Camp Bastian. But that is only because we are stupid enough to be there in the first place. Pull out. Now.

    And a country in which the largest-circulation newspaper, still being published despite the impending imprisonment both of its recent senior staff over phone hacking and of its old
    stagers over Hillsborough, features a picture of a topless woman every day, expresses
    not unjustified outrage over the publication of a picture of a topless woman in France, but vigorously defends the abuse of Muhammad in a film condemned by the Coptic Church on which an attempt has been made to pin the blame for it, an attempt which echoed the use of the Christians in Iraq as bait for jihadis in a hideous Straussian game of cat and mouse.

    But “extraordinary and historic” is how the Holy Father’s visit to Lebanon been described. By Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah. Today has been declared a public
    holiday by the Government headed by the legendary Maronite General, Michel Aoun, and including Hezbollah, to which the Christians now look as their last line of defence. People whose view of Lebanon is stuck in the 1980s are precisely that: stuck in the 1980s. They often are about a lot of things.

    Whereas the other side, favoured by those against whom Hezbollah is defending Christian Lebanon, is bankrolled by Saudi Arabia. That Kingdom, like Turkey and Qatar, is funding, arming, and engaging directly in, the Islamist insurrection in and invasion of Syria, to the terror of the Christian population there. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have told their citizens not to visit Lebanon. Mercifully, Benedict XVI is neither Saudi not Qatari.

    • T. Botham

      The Copt who made the film tried to pin it on a fictitious “Israeli Jew” backed by mythical “100 Jewish donors”. The film (or trailer, the entire film has not been located so far) seems to represent a glorious opportunity for a Coptic con man to get at two enemies: Muslims and Jews. Copts (the”aboriiginal” Christians as you call them) are still stuck in first century doctrine which insists that Jews are Christ-killers. Perhaps the Pope will update them on doctrine. Nasrallah is a mob boss. No doubt Copts – and other Christians – look to him for protection. He believes that Jews are prophet killers.
      Your pity-the-Christians routines would leave fewer dry eyes if they (and you) didn’t try to defend their true oppressors and implicate Jews.

      • David Lindsay

        Better out than in?

        The present Coalition in Lebanon is as it is, with majority electoral support among both Christians and Muslims, and with absolutely no doubt about where the real threats are: our dear friends in Israel and in Saudi Arabia.

        Saudi Arabia, when not invading Syria, is the force behind the Kentucky Fried Chicken arsonists. Whereas the Pope has been warmly welcomed by the (Iranian-backed) armed defenders against Israel, the same Israel that cheers on the invasion of Syria.

      • Daniel Maris

        He doesn’t sound a very salubrious character. But that is the beauty of free speech – it’s not a beauty contest where only the fair and fragrant may speak.

      • David Lindsay

        Oh, and Copts are not “enemies” of the Muslims. The Muslim ruling elite of Egypt recently turned out in force for the funeral of Pope Shenouda III, a national day of mourning, at the end of which the Air Force flew his body for burial at the monastery to which Sadat had banished him. Banished him for opposing the Camp David Accords. There remains in force his excommunication of any Copt from outside the Holy Land who sets foot there while the Zionist State remains in existence. Someone else is trying to smear the Copts and incite the Muslims. But who?

  • barry delabole

    On BBC World yesterday the PC fella said that the film was utterly appalling but the death of the US AMbassador waa well, just a death. He was incensed about the movie. So I would like no more news about Islamic actions. A TV channel that reports none of it. Oh bliss.

  • Tron

    This country and most of Europe are heading back to the Middle Ages.
    The Age of Reason is dead.
    Today it’s Cairo tomorrow it’s Croydon.

    • Thomas Aquinas

      As is said in The Soul: “Practical knowledge differs from speculative knowledge in its end.” For the end of speculative knowledge is simply truth, but the end of practical knowledge, as we read in the Metaphysics, is action. Now, some knowledge is called practical because it is directed to a work. This happens in two ways. In the first way, it is directed in act—that is, when it is actually directed to a certain work, as the form is which an artist preconceives and intends to introduce into matter. This is called actual practical knowledge and is the form by which knowledge takes place. At other times, however, there is a type of knowledge that is capable of being ordered to an act, but this ordering is not actual. For example, an artist thinks out a form for his work, knows how it can be made, yet does not intend to make it. This is practical knowledge, not actual, but habitual or virtual. At still other times, knowledge is utterly incapable of being ordered to execution. Such knowledge is purely speculative. This also happens in two ways. First, the knowledge is about those things whose natures are such that they cannot be produced by the knowledge of the knower, as is true for example, when we think about natural things. Second, it may happen that the thing known is something that is producible through knowledge but is not considered as producible; for a thing is given existence through a productive operation, and there are certain realities that can be separated in understanding although they cannot exist separately. Therefore, when we consider a thing which is capable of production through the intellect and distinguish from each other realities that cannot exist separately, this knowledge is not practical knowledge, either actual or habitual, but only speculative. This is the kind of knowledge a craftsman has when he thinks about a house by reflecting only on its genus, differences, properties, and other things of this sort which have no separate existence in the thing itseif. But a thing is considered as something capable of execution when there are considered in its regard all the things that are simultaneously required for its existence.

      • Stephen Morris

        What a load of twaddle.

        • Daniel Maris


  • Jimmy Dobson

    The answer to your question: neither, just Muslim.

  • Austin Barry

    Look, you circumcise or infibulate these people when they’re born, you deny them the aesthetic and sexually comforting sight of women, deny them the pleasures of alcohol and bacon sarnies, inculcate a hatred of mild-mannered Golden Retrievers and their canine chums, and finally consign them, brillo-bearded and perpetually Mecca-crouching, to live in rubbled, joyless, poverty-stricken dystopias to be ruled by theocratic thugs. The result: a dangerous, violent cult which is, increasingly, heading our way: today Tripoli, tomorrow Totnes.

    As the Beatles song anticipated, “You say Halal, we say Goodbye”.

    • Daniel Maris

      You also deny them – in very large part – the joys of representational art, of dancing, of cinema, of books…It’s like Calvinism without the work ethic.

      The non-Muslim world should be doing far more to encourage an honest appraisal of the life of Mohammed. One thing many people don’t realise is just how ignorant Muslims generally were of Mohammed’s life until quite recently, given the low levels of literacy and the control exercised over the media by Muslim governments. Previously it was clerics only who really had this in depth knowledge. It is only in the last few years of the internet that many of them will have begun to learn some of the details of his life.

      • Austin Barry

        And yet the more information they receive the angrier they become. A simple, stupid and intolerant people, why does our ruling elite believe we need them yelping and whooping, benefit-supported, in our cities?

        • Daniel Maris

          Well it’s not ALL of them engaged in the violence – any more than the witch-burners were all of our forefathers.

          I am sure the majority of Muslims will be thankful when they begin to progress economically and get the Mullahs of their back. Although not strictly comparable, 50 years ago in Ireland people were intensely loyal to Catholicism and accepted their lot in life. No longer.

          • Austin Barry

            The Church of Rome destroyed itself here in Ireland by systemic child abuse. The cassock stinks of buggery and craven cover-up. Islam, however, seems to accept in supine and Mecca-facing canine, rear-presenting obeyance any perversion its theocratic thugs serve-up, be it infibulation, child grooming, adultery-stoning, homophobia, misogyny, infidel-hating, apostate-murdering, dog-spurning, bacon-deriding, music-hating, and art-detesting idiocy.

            And the Muslim majority? It hates us in silence.

            • Daniel Maris

              Well, I don’t know – Islam has only been exposed to free information for about 5years. Prior to the internet there was none at all. It will be (would be) interesting to come back in 50 years and see how things are going.

              Muslims are human beings and can – like the rest of humanity – only take so much cognitive dissonance before they self-implode.

              Islam is probably the most successful belief system that ever bestrode this planet but even it might find the pressure of free information flow on the internet too much.

              • Swanky Yanky

                Depends how you define ‘successful’. I certainly would not characterize it that way.

                • Daniel Maris

                  I should have written “durable” perhaps. Christianity has changed a lot, though retaining some central themes. Islam is pretty much unchanged, although it has dissociated itself from slavery (in the same way Judaism did).

            • FrWashYourMouthOutChild

              Austin (Goose) Barry, you mean systematic, of course. You yourself are a fine example of the half-educated, the educated half being Catholic, the other half being ‘English “Age of Reason” lets not get all Medieval, whatever the fug that’s supposed to mean’ to the by now totally illiterate English. I mean, look at Maris. If ridiculousness could be profound, he’d be it personified. The trouble, or debased beauty, with being half- or wholly fuging ignorantly educated is that you are not called on to make sense, just noises. Well, fug it, anyone can make noise, and most of us can make it much more interestingly than you. You’re just like those Muslims, but without the balls. Ken Dodd, indeed. You can’t even make me smile.

              • Austin Barry

                Er, no, mate, I mean systemic. Look it up in one of those helpful books known as a ‘dictionary’ with which you seem to have a less than passing acquaintance.

                Also, chum, the euphemism ‘fug’ came and went with Norman Mailer’s ‘The Naked and the Dead’ published in 1948. It’s a good book, you should read it. Matron could probably obtain a copy, if you ask nicely as she hands you the Lithium thimble.

                • Swanky Yanky

                  I’ve read some good comebacks in my years on the blogs, but yours is a beaut, Austin.

                • Geoff

                  he’s bloody good isn’t he!

              • Daniel Maris

                Are you Brendan Behan? All that fugging…

            • Swanky Yanky

              Dogs are wonderful creatures. I prefer my own to most humans. She is clever, discerning, exuberantly affectionate, sensitive, perceptive, playful, helpful, beautiful, genuinely loving, fragrant and clean. Which is more than can be said of many on two legs.

          • BretEastonWaugh

            I very much doubt what you say. You might be right about some tiny enclaves within Iranian society or the upper-classes of Turkey but the Arab world en gros is extremely reactionary. And the silence of the masses seems to be conveying this message very clearly.
            Also, your relativism is – albeit the do-gooder zeitgeist not astonishing – very silly. I’ll give you an example why:
            The Irish “Illegitimate Children (Affiliation Orders) Act of 1930.
            Definitions 1.
            – In this Act – the word “mother” means any of the following persons who is
            with child or has been delivered of an illegitimate child, that is to
            say, any single woman …… who before her marriage was delivered of an
            illegitimate child; and the expression “putative father” means a person adjudged by an affiliation order made under this Act to be the putative father of an illegitimate child.”
            This definition was made more than 50 years ago in Catholic Ireland. Do you really believe such a definition exists in contemporary Saudi or Afghan statues?
            Si tacuisses, …..

            • Daniel Maris

              30 years ago 90% of Irish people went to Sunday Mass – it’s nowhere near that figure now.

              I am not saying Islam will change, but it is engaged in life and death struggle with modernism.

              Islam has never been faced with so much knowledge being disseminated about its founder, its laws and its ideology.

              • Marcus

                I’d say this is your defence. I know 100’s of middle class Muslims as I work in the medical profession.
                None are fundamentalists. All, ultimately become ‘yuppyised’. There is nothing more socially homogeneous than the clientèle of Waitrose, whenever they may have hailed from and what ever religion they all like Israeli hummus and want the new Mad men box set.
                This brings us back to the most popular post above: once they all have satellite dishes and some cash they will get better. Just like all the middle classes from their respective countries.

                Incidentally I did know 1 fundamentalist, he was born in the U.K. and believed women should be stoned for adultery, but then there are always exceptions. I also worked with the Paisley bombers, who were very nice actually; until they did the bombing, but they never tried to integrate.

      • Swanky Yanky

        Ah, you used the word ‘honest’. I fear that is the first and most massive stumbling block.

      • William Reid Boyd

        Of course Mohammed’s life is recorded in considerable detail in the Hadith but (as with the Koran) one has to have a good grasp of classical Arabic to read these records, still the language of newspapers and the law courts in the Arab world but nevertheless not the everyday language of the people.

        But that pales to insiginificance when one considers the plight of Muslims who speak no Arabic at all, and that translations of the Koran are frowned upon (indeed not permitted by fundamentalists). Those Taliban kids in the Pakistan madrassas are learning the Koran off by heart without the faintest idea of what they are learning actually means, and neither for the most part do their teachers know.

        Much as was the case with our own Bible before the Tyndale and King James translations.

        What’s your take on Edward Gibbon’s appraisal of Mohammed in “Decline and Fall”? He was rather sympathetic one gathers.

        • terry

          ” one has to have a good grasp of classical Arabic to read these records”.

          Total rubbish. So, the Koran and sunna are the only books in global history that can’t be translated into English? Keep drinking the Islamic Kool-Aid, William. Tastes soooo good, doesn’t it?

          • William Reid Boyd

            erm … I was simply stating a matter of fact and not a judgement about the facts.

            Of course both the Hadith and the Koran are widely translated, but you won’t find these translations in a fundamentalist madrassa.

      • Barry

        “It’s like Calvinism without the work ethic”

        I can seriously recommend “The Wee Book of Calvin” by Bill Duncan. The Scottish side of my family loved it – but they’re neither stupid nor mentally ill, as far as I know.

        • Daniel Maris

          Where the Calvinists got political control, the results were pretty horrible.

    • Noa

      “…today Tripoli, tomorrow Totnes…”

      You’re a little behind the times Mr Barry.

      Today Lahore.. and today, London. Today Peshawar today Preston…they’re already here.

      • Austin Barry


        Totnes, however, at least as of last week, seems spared the muslim menace. Only crusty new-agers and man-cropped, big-bummed-look-at-me-I-was-once-a-woman retirees grace the high-cobbled, tudor main street.

        • Lungfish

          As holiday destinations go I’d like to recommend Corsica as a surprisingly muslim free zone.

          • Robert Taggart

            Many a Corsican (Corsu speakers) mind – wish Corsica to be a French free zone !

          • Robert Taggart

            Many a Corsican (Corsu speakers) mind – wish Corsica to be a French free zone !

    • Eddie

      ‘As the Beatles song anticipated, “You say Halal, we say Goodbye”.’
      Apparently, a favourite ditty of the Muslim brotherhood brotherly brothers is ‘Hey Jew’ – especially with the alternative verse:
      ‘Hey Jews, why are you the devil of the world creating the capitalist system with its venomous Jew tentacles stretching all over the world to steal and rape the Muslim to enrich your Jew filth kaffir scum? May your children’s children children grow black and diseased sucking the poisoned milk from your mother whores’ putrid teats as Allah’s revenge for your eating of newborn Muslim babes…Allah ooo Akbahhhhhh all your kaffir infidel scum!’
      I don’t think it scans – but then, neither did Paul McCartney’s version at the Olympic opening ceremony…
      I think they got the words from the wunnderfil TV version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which has aired every week on TV in Egypt in the last few years, and which makes this new ‘anti-Mohammed’ film look like quite a gentle portrait of the old polygamist warlord paedo rapist murderer, really!

    • Eddie

      So where are the protests in Europe from all the well-integrated Muslims who are prepared to defend our values (the same values of tolerance that protect them). Silence is always the reply isn’t it? Muslims have never ever protested en masse against any Muslim atrocity – whether it be the 7/7 bombings. 9/11, the Muslim cartoon murders etc. One can’t help suspecting it’s because they agree with such Muslims violence and actually do not agree with our values at all.
      Unless and until the Muslim would can make their version of Life of Brian and laughat themselves – unless and until they can stop reading the Koran literally and hero-worshipping some 7th century warlord – then most of them will be incompatible with Westren values and they will ever be the enemy within – and one that needs to be closely watched at all times.
      The West should go on being the West – in fact we should do this more loudly and resolutely – and defending modern Enlightenment values, and if it offends Muslims and other bigots and fascists, then GOOD!
      The craven acquience of our ‘liberal’ elite – our politicians, media (esp the BBC) and education system – to what is essentially a backwards death cult with fascistic tendencies sickens me. Would these so-called ‘liberals’ tolerate these people’s beliefs and values and lifestyles if they were white and non-religious eh? (Here’s a clue: the answer is NO!)

  • Bruce, UK

    “Are these people running riot in Khartoum, Cairo and Tripoli just very stupid, or mentally ill? Or both?”

    C’mon Rod, show some mercy and compassion.

  • Jeff

    When you upset children they often throw tantrums. Where’s the surprise?

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